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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] kvm: optimize out smp_mb using srcu_read_unlock
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 08:47:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131031064743.GB20205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131031045629.GT4126@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:56:29PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:26:05AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > Paul, could you review this patch please?
> > > > Documentation/memory-barriers.txt says that unlock has a weaker
> > > > uni-directional barrier, but in practice srcu_read_unlock calls
> > > > smp_mb().
> > > > 
> > > > Is it OK to rely on this? If not, can I add
> > > > smp_mb__after_srcu_read_unlock (making it an empty macro for now)
> > > > so we can avoid an actual extra smp_mb()?
> > > 
> > > Please use smp_mb__after_srcu_read_unlock().  After all, it was not
> > > that long ago that srcu_read_unlock() contained no memory barriers,
> > > and perhaps some day it won't need to once again.
> > > 
> > > 							Thanx, Paul
> > >
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Something like this will be enough?
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/linux/srcu.h b/include/linux/srcu.h
> > index c114614..9b058ee 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/srcu.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/srcu.h
> > @@ -237,4 +237,18 @@ static inline void srcu_read_unlock(struct srcu_struct *sp, int idx)
> >  	__srcu_read_unlock(sp, idx);
> >  }
> > 
> > +/**
> > + * smp_mb__after_srcu_read_unlock - ensure full ordering after srcu_read_unlock
> > + *
> > + * Converts the preceding srcu_read_unlock into a two-way memory barrier.
> > + *
> > + * Call this after srcu_read_unlock, to guarantee that all memory operations
> > + * that occur after smp_mb__after_srcu_read_unlock will appear to happen after
> > + * the preceding srcu_read_unlock.
> > + */
> > +static inline void smp_mb__after_srcu_read_unlock(void)
> > +{
> > +	/* __srcu_read_unlock has smp_mb() internally so nothing to do here. */
> > +}
> > +
> >  #endif
> 
> Yep, that should do it!
> 
This looks dubious to me. All other smp_mb__after_* variants are there
because some atomic operations have different memory barrier semantics on
different arches, but srcu_read_unlock() have the same semantics on all
arches, so smp_mb__after_srcu_read_unlock() becomes
smp_mb__after_a_function_that_happens_to_have_mb_now_but_may_not_have_in_the_feature().
How likely it is that smp_mb() will disappear from srcu_read_unlock()
(if was added for a reason I guess)?  May be we should change documentation
to say that srcu_read_unlock() is a memory barrier which will reflect
the reality.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-31  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-30 19:09 [PATCH RFC] kvm: optimize out smp_mb using srcu_read_unlock Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-30 20:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-30 23:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31  4:56     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31  6:47       ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-10-31 11:11         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 12:28           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-31 13:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-01  8:43         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-10-31 11:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 11:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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