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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Adding the nfs4_use_min_auth module parameter
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:04:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131108150435.GA3533@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131108082202.4032f1a2@tlielax.poochiereds.net>

On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 08:22:02AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 07:41:32 -0500
> Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com> wrote:
> > No. I think the concern here, at least my concern, is the lack of management.
> > We are forcing admins to use krb5i in lease management when its not necessary
> > and there is no way to turn it off.
> >   
> 
> I don't think that's really the case. The idea was to have the client
> attempt to use krb5i if it's available, and then to fall back to
> AUTH_SYS if it isn't. This would be *absolutely* no big deal if the
> GSSAPI upcall succeeded or failed immediately instead of requiring this
> timeout when the daemon isn't running.

I'm also still a little confused about the security model.  We discussed
it before but I can't remember if it was really resolved.

It makes sense to me as long as we insist on krb5i whenever we find a
keytab.

But my understanding was that with the current implementation it's
possible we could find a keytab, attempt the krb5i connection, and
*then* fallback silently on auth_sys if krb5i fails.  Is that right?

In that case I don't see the point of the krb5i any more: any attacker
that can spoof rpc replies can force the fallback to auth_sys.

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-08 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-07 19:09 [PATCH] Adding the nfs4_use_min_auth module parameter Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 19:25 ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-07 21:01   ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-07 21:40     ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 22:04       ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-07 21:35   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 23:05     ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 12:41       ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 13:22         ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-08 15:00           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:12             ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-08 16:10               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 16:17                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:19                   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 16:22                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:28                       ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 16:39                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:45                           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 18:12                           ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 18:09                   ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 20:14                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 20:32                   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-09  2:04               ` NeilBrown
2013-11-08 16:27             ` Weston Andros Adamson
2013-11-08 16:38               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:04           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2013-11-08 15:54             ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 16:14               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 17:58                 ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 18:46                   ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 21:09                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:17               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:46         ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 21:25           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 19:26 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-07 21:25   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 21:39     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-07 21:57       ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 22:29         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-08 12:21           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 14:30             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-08 15:08               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:16                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-08 16:31                   ` Steve Dickson

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