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From: andrew@lunn.ch (Andrew Lunn)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC DTC PATCH] dtc: add symlink (-L) output to dtbs
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:40:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131112194009.GA13577@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131112193012.GR10335@titan.lakedaemon.net>

> 2) right now: distributions are creating utilities, such a flash-kernel
> in Debian, that pick from a slew of dtbs, append it to the zImage, and
> create the uImage.  The bootloaders in these installs don't have support
> for fdt.
> 
> Our problem (as I see it) is that #2 is creating an ABI out of something
> we never realized would become an ABI, the filenames created by 'make
> dtbs'.

Well, flash-kernel could be taught how to parse .dtb files to get the
compatibility strings out of them, rather than use filenames.

It might still be early enough to give distributions some guidelines
about what DT folks consider ABI and what is not. How they should find
a fitting .dtb file and how they should not.

  Andrew

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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC DTC PATCH] dtc: add symlink (-L) output to dtbs
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:40:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131112194009.GA13577@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131112193012.GR10335@titan.lakedaemon.net>

> 2) right now: distributions are creating utilities, such a flash-kernel
> in Debian, that pick from a slew of dtbs, append it to the zImage, and
> create the uImage.  The bootloaders in these installs don't have support
> for fdt.
> 
> Our problem (as I see it) is that #2 is creating an ABI out of something
> we never realized would become an ABI, the filenames created by 'make
> dtbs'.

Well, flash-kernel could be taught how to parse .dtb files to get the
compatibility strings out of them, rather than use filenames.

It might still be early enough to give distributions some guidelines
about what DT folks consider ABI and what is not. How they should find
a fitting .dtb file and how they should not.

  Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-12 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 191+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-11 20:29 [RFC DTC PATCH] dtc: add symlink (-L) output to dtbs Jason Cooper
2013-11-11 20:29 ` Jason Cooper
     [not found] ` < 20131115121215.901EFC40885@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < 52814AFB.3070600@wwwdotorg.org>
     [not found]   ` < CAL_Jsq+mAoN2Lbg+uqfLMTZBvgz28E-EioiaU4BUSL_7rS5JjA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` < 528275B7.6050209@wwwdotorg.org>
     [not found] ` < 1385062552-9882-1-git-send-email-jason@lakedaemon.net>
     [not found]   ` < 653B066B-5B24-4817-86EF-D4D9F129123D@codeaurora.org>
     [not found] ` < 1384896475-8744-1-git-send-email-jason@lakedaemon.net>
     [not found] ` < 1385942188-21831-1-git-send-email-jason@lakedaemon.net>
2013-11-11 21:24 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-11 21:24   ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 14:51   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-12 14:51     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-12 15:29   ` Rob Herring
2013-11-12 15:29     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-12 18:38     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 18:38       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 19:30       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-12 19:30         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-12 19:40         ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2013-11-12 19:40           ` Andrew Lunn
2013-11-12 20:08           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-12 20:08             ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-12 20:15         ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-12 20:15           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-14 16:28           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-14 16:28             ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-14 19:00             ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-14 19:00               ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-14 19:16               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-11-14 19:16                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-11-14 19:34                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-14 19:34                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-14 21:37                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-14 21:37                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-14 22:12                   ` Matt Sealey
2013-11-14 22:12                     ` Matt Sealey
2013-11-15 16:14                   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-15 16:14                     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-14 19:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-14 19:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-15 15:23               ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-15 15:23                 ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-15 17:09                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-11-15 17:09                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2013-11-15 21:38                   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-15 21:38                     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-15 12:12 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-15 12:12   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-15 15:21   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-15 15:21     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 12:56     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 12:56       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 18:38 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/2] Add 'make dtbs_install' Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 18:38   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 18:38   ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/2] dtc: add 'compat' output option, prints board string Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 18:38     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:01     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:01       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:21       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:21         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 20:24       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 20:24         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 18:38   ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/2] kbuild: dtbs_install: new make target Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 18:38     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:09     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:09       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:19       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:19         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:23         ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:23           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:28           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:28             ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:38             ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:38               ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 19:52               ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 19:52                 ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                 ` < 528A98C8.9040803@wwwdotorg.org>
2013-11-18 22:46                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 22:46                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                   ` <20131119122801. GL16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2013-11-19 12:28                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 12:28                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 14:23                     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 14:23                       ` Jason Cooper
     [not found]                       ` < 20131119150212.GM16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2013-11-19 15:02                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 15:02                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                         ` <20131119152047. GB28859@titan.lakedaemon.net>
2013-11-19 15:20                         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 15:20                           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 15:21                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 15:21                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                             ` < 20131119192246.GP16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2013-11-19 19:22                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 19:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 19:54                               ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 19:54                                 ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-20 13:10                               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:10                                 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:56                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-20 13:56                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21  7:50                                   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21  7:50                                     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 16:38                                 ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-20 16:38                                   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 18:40                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 18:40                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 18:43                         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 18:43                           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 18:42                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 18:42                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 18:52                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 18:52                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 19:27                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 19:27                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 19:53                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 19:53                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 18:57                       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 18:57                         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 19:53                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 19:53                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 20:39                           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 20:39                             ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 21:06                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 21:06                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-20 13:18                               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:18                                 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH V3 0/2] Add 'make dtbs_install' Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 21:21   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 21:21   ` [RFC PATCH V3 1/2] scripts: dtc: build fdtget for extracting properties from dtbs Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 21:21     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 22:54     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 22:54       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 14:17       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 14:17         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 21:21   ` [RFC PATCH V3 2/2] kbuild: dtbs_install: new make target Jason Cooper
2013-11-18 21:21     ` Jason Cooper
     [not found] ` <cover. 1384798508.git.jason@lakedaemon.net>
     [not found]   ` < 728deb9bbeab491a728da077aa5e47c0e01bccf8.1384798508.git.jason@lakedaemon. net>
     [not found]     ` <728deb9bbeab491a728da077aa5e47c0e01bccf8.1384798508.git.jason@lakedaemon.n et>
2013-11-19 13:58       ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/2] dtc: add 'compat' output option, prints board string Grant Likely
2013-11-19 13:58         ` Grant Likely
     [not found] ` <cover. 1384809305.git.jason@lakedaemon.net>
     [not found]   ` < 13f06582c166343c055b8793305d4b9a00b2172e.1384809305.git.jason@lakedaemon. net>
     [not found]     ` <13f06582c166343c055b8793305d4b9a00b2172e.1384809305.git.jason@lakedaemon.n et>
2013-11-19 14:22       ` [RFC PATCH V3 2/2] kbuild: dtbs_install: new make target Grant Likely
2013-11-19 14:22         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 21:27 ` [PATCH V4] " Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 21:27   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-19 21:58   ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 21:58     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-20 13:21     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:21       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 17:22       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-20 17:22         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-20 17:08     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-20 17:08       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-20 17:21       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-20 17:21         ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-21  7:48       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21  7:48         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 19:35 ` [PATCH V5] " Jason Cooper
2013-11-21 19:35   ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-21 19:55   ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-21 19:55     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-21 23:31   ` Kumar Gala
2013-11-21 23:31     ` Kumar Gala
2013-11-21 23:36     ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 23:36       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-22  7:42       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22  7:42         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22 13:31         ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-22 13:31           ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-22 13:19     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-22 13:19       ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-01 23:40     ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-01 23:40       ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-22  7:44   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22  7:44     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22 13:33     ` Jason Cooper
2013-11-22 13:33       ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-01 23:56 ` [PATCH V6] " Jason Cooper
2013-12-01 23:56   ` Jason Cooper
2013-12-03 17:37   ` Stephen Warren
2013-12-03 17:37     ` Stephen Warren
2013-12-03 17:41     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-12-03 17:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-01-10 18:29   ` Jason Cooper
2014-01-10 18:29     ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-04 12:40     ` Grant Likely
2014-02-04 12:40       ` Grant Likely
2014-02-04 12:41     ` [PATCH] " Grant Likely
2015-03-28 13:23   ` [PATCH V6] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-03-28 13:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-03-28 13:37     ` [PATCH] dtbsinstall: don't move target directory out of the way Russell King
2015-03-28 13:37       ` Russell King
2015-03-28 13:37       ` Russell King
2015-03-28 15:59       ` Jason Cooper
2015-03-28 15:59         ` Jason Cooper
2015-03-28 15:59         ` Jason Cooper
2015-03-28 15:58     ` [PATCH V6] kbuild: dtbs_install: new make target Jason Cooper
2015-03-28 15:58       ` Jason Cooper
2015-03-29 20:34       ` Olof Johansson
2015-03-29 20:34         ` Olof Johansson
2015-03-29 20:58         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-03-29 20:58           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-03-29 21:04         ` Jason Cooper
2015-03-29 21:04           ` Jason Cooper

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