From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.saout.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.saout.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qh-2sIBZMTIy for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:03:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from v6.tansi.org (unknown [87.118.116.4]) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:03:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from gatewagner.dyndns.org (77-57-44-24.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.44.24]) by v6.tansi.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1F2CF20DC23B for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:03:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:03:53 +0100 From: Arno Wagner Message-ID: <20131129010353.GA7043@tansi.org> References: <4b257a0455c2ff44b6c488df576b9764@www.mighty.co.za> <20131129003251.GB6415@tansi.org> <83ed4c2099c81c3e6e55621ec989e5a8@www.mighty.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83ed4c2099c81c3e6e55621ec989e5a8@www.mighty.co.za> Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Cascading two plain dm-crypt volumes List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: dm-crypt@saout.de On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 01:49:57 CET, anderson jackson wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 01:32:51 +0100 Arno Wagner wrote > > > If I understood this right, it is plain(luks(data)) > > No actually I meant plain(plain(data)). Therefore you won't see the luks > header when the attacker finds the correct pass but just random data. > That is not really more secure than just plain with the two passphrases concatenated (as long as the entropy does not exceed the key length). No reason to do this, except if you mistrust the ciphers and want to use two different ones. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., Email: arno@wagner.name GnuPG: ID: CB5D9718 FP: 12D6 C03B 1B30 33BB 13CF B774 E35C 5FA1 CB5D 9718 ---- There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult. --Tony Hoare