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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: missing /sbin/fsck.btrfs
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:30 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131201230130.GS8803@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CBAC6E46-0E69-477C-A177-E720C3184073@colorremedies.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 08:06:36PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:40:49PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Is there supposed to be an /sbin/fsck.btrfs? I'm seeing a
> >> handful of threads indicating some idea of having it just do a
> >> no-op like fsck.xfs does, but then also the idea that
> >> /etc/fstab should correctly set fs_passno to 0 instead of such
> >> trickery.
> > 
> > You're missing a key thing that fsck.xfs does that fstab expects
> > to work - it fails with an error if the device is missing. If
> > the device is present, then fsck.xfs returns success.
> 
> The description of fs_passno taken literally doesn't account for
> this explanation. It just says if fs_passno is not present or
> zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the
> filesystem does not need to be checked.

I'm not commenting on what fstab does or does not do - I commented
on the incorrect assertion that was made about fsck.xfs being a
no-op.

> So the fstab expects (or is it systemd or an fsck instance spawned
> by systemd?) this device present/missing flag to occur is a
> convention? Or by design? Seems goofy.

fstab expects that if it is asked for the filesystem to be checked
and the device is missing, then fsck.<foo> will return an error
because the device is missing and it could not be checked....

> > We did this because people were having problems when devices
> > took a long time to instantiate (e.g. SAN, iscsi and other
> > remote devices) and the 'device exists' check prevents
> > /etc/fstab trying to mount the filesystems before they are
> > present and then throwing a hissy fit….
> 
> OK so you're saying you'd want rootfs on XFS to have its fstab
> entry retain an fs_passno of 1?

No, I didn't say that. I just explained that things can go wrong if
you don't detect certain types of errors in fsck.<foo> when it is
called from fstab processing.

What I am implying here is that we cannot prevent users from setting
passno to 1 or 2 in /etc/fstab. We have no control over that and so
asserting that "we don't need a fsck.btrfs because we can set passno
to 0" is invalid. IOWs, fsck.btrfs needs to be present and it needs
to behave correctly in these cases....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-01 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26  6:40 missing /sbin/fsck.btrfs Chris Murphy
2013-11-26  7:18 ` Duncan
2013-11-26  7:53   ` dima
2013-11-26 18:43   ` Chris Murphy
2013-11-26 22:36     ` Duncan
2013-11-27  4:55   ` Chris Murphy
2013-11-27  6:14     ` Duncan
2013-11-27  0:51 ` Dave Chinner
2013-11-27  3:06   ` Chris Murphy
2013-12-01 23:01     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-12-30 17:18       ` Tom Gundersen
2014-01-06 14:55         ` Karel Zak
2013-11-27 11:19   ` Tom Gundersen

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