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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH?] uprobes: change uprobe_write_opcode() to modify the page directly
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 20:53:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131203195314.GA19083@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw3N=iNW2Ej6w7oksX5JDVis7QL=9X9D7JB_tKZhrjsLw@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/03, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > See the patch below. For review only
>
> Looks completely broken. Where do you guarantee that it's just a single page?

Yes, it is always a single page on all supported architectures.

This is even documented. I believe that "NOTE:" comment above
uprobe_write_opcode() tries to say this but I guess this comment
should be cleanuped.

And note also

	/* uprobe_write_opcode() assumes we don't cross page boundary */
	BUG_ON((uprobe->offset & ~PAGE_MASK) +
			UPROBE_SWBP_INSN_SIZE > PAGE_SIZE);

in prepare_uprobe().

> Yes, on x86, UPROBE_SWBP_INSN_SIZE is a single byte.

And powerpc checks addr & 3 to ensure it doesn't cross the page.

> frankly, on x86, exactly *because* it's a single byte, I don't
> understand why we don't just write the damn thing with a single
> "put_user()", and stop with all the idiotic games.

Well, put_user() obviously can't work, mm != current->mm.
So we need get_user_pages() at least.

> No need to
> invalidate caches, even, because if you overwrite the first byte of an
> instruction, it all "just works".

I can't comment this, I do not know how the hardware actually works.

> Either the instruction decoding gets
> the old one, or it gets the new one.

Funny that.

I have asked why access_process_vm() can't work when I saw the initial
version of uprobes patches. I was told this can't work (even on x86).

And I was told that this idiotic games were suggested by someone
named Linus Torvalds ;)

> And on non-x86, UPROBE_SWBP_INSN_SIZE is not necessarily 1, so it
> could cross a page boundary.

Yes. If we support such an architecture we should obviously update
uprobe_write_opcode() accordingly.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-03 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26  0:37 [PATCH] Add a text_poke syscall v2 Andi Kleen
2013-11-26 19:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-11-26 19:11   ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-26 20:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 19:57     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:02       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:21         ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-11-27 22:21         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 22:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:25           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:29             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 22:31               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:04                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 23:13                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 22:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:10                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 23:20                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:40                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-11-27 23:47                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 22:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 22:53           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-27 23:15             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-27 23:28               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-28  2:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-11-28  2:10                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-28  9:12                   ` Jiri Kosina
2013-11-27 23:44               ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-29 18:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 19:54   ` Andi Kleen
2013-11-29 20:05     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 20:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-29 20:35         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 21:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-30 14:56             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-29 23:24       ` Jiri Kosina
2013-11-30  0:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-03 18:49           ` [PATCH?] uprobes: change uprobe_write_opcode() to modify the page directly Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 19:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-03 19:20               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 20:01                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 20:21                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 20:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 20:43                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 20:54                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-03 22:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-03 23:47                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-04 11:30                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 11:11                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 16:01                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-04 16:48                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 16:54                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-04 17:15                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-12-04 17:43                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-05 17:23                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-05 17:49                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-05 18:45                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-04 18:32                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-05  8:28                                       ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2013-12-03 22:42                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-03 19:53               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-11-30 15:20         ` [PATCH] Add a text_poke syscall v2 Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30 16:51         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30 17:31           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-30  5:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-30 14:52         ` Oleg Nesterov

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