From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
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darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 5/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Downgrade UNLOCK+LOCK
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:19:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131210051910.GI4208@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131210013231.GA24138@jtriplet-mobl1>
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 05:32:31PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 05:28:01PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >
> > Historically, an UNLOCK+LOCK pair executed by one CPU, by one task,
> > or on a given lock variable has implied a full memory barrier. In a
> > recent LKML thread, the wisdom of this historical approach was called
> > into question: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg65653.html,
> > in part due to the memory-order complexities of low-handoff-overhead
> > queued locks on x86 systems.
> >
> > This patch therefore removes this guarantee from the documentation, and
> > further documents how to restore it via a new smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()
> > primitive.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> > Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
> > Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > Cc: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
> > Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> > Cc: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
> > Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>
> > Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
> > Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
> > Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> > Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > ---
> > Documentation/memory-barriers.txt | 51 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> > 1 file changed, 44 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > index a0763db314ff..efb791d33e5a 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > @@ -1626,7 +1626,10 @@ for each construct. These operations all imply certain barriers:
> > operation has completed.
> >
> > Memory operations issued before the LOCK may be completed after the LOCK
> > - operation has completed.
> > + operation has completed. An smp_mb__before_spinlock(), combined
> > + with a following LOCK, acts as an smp_wmb(). Note the "w",
> > + this is smp_wmb(), not smp_mb(). The smp_mb__before_spinlock()
> > + primitive is free on many architectures.
>
> Gah. That seems highly error-prone; why isn't that
> "smp_wmb__before_spinlock()"?
I must confess that I wondered that myself. I didn't create it, I am
just documenting it.
Might be worth a change, though.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 5:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-10 1:27 [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking] Memory-barrier documentation updates + smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 1/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls to memory-barriers.txt Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 2/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add long atomic examples " Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 3/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Prohibit speculative writes Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 4/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Document ACCESS_ONCE() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 5/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Downgrade UNLOCK+LOCK Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:32 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 5:19 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-12-10 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:43 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 18:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 6/7] locking: Add an smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() for UNLOCK+LOCK barrier Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:34 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 5:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:45 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 20:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 17:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 7/7] rcu: Apply smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() to preserve grace periods Paul E. McKenney
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