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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 5/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Downgrade UNLOCK+LOCK
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:44:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131210164436.GA23506@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386638883-25379-5-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 12/09, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> @@ -1626,7 +1626,10 @@ for each construct.  These operations all imply certain barriers:
>       operation has completed.
>
>       Memory operations issued before the LOCK may be completed after the LOCK
> -     operation has completed.
> +     operation has completed.  An smp_mb__before_spinlock(), combined
> +     with a following LOCK, acts as an smp_wmb().  Note the "w",
> +     this is smp_wmb(), not smp_mb().

Well, but smp_mb__before_spinlock + LOCK is not wmb... But it is not
the full barrier. It should guarantee that, say,

	CONDITION = true;		// 1

	// try_to_wake_up
	smp_mb__before_spinlock();
	spin_lock(&task->pi_lock);

	if (!(p->state & state))	// 2
		return;		

can't race with with set_current_state() + check(CONDITION), this means
that 1 and 2 above must not be reordered.

But a LOAD before before spin_lock() can leak into the critical section.

Perhaps this should be clarified somehow, or perhaps it should actually
imply mb (if combined with LOCK).

Oleg


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-10 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-10  1:27 [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking] Memory-barrier documentation updates + smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 1/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls to memory-barriers.txt Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:27   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 2/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add long atomic examples " Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:27   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 3/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Prohibit speculative writes Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:28   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 4/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Document ACCESS_ONCE() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:28   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 5/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Downgrade UNLOCK+LOCK Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:32     ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10  5:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 13:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:43           ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 18:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:49           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 18:49           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 16:44     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-12-10 17:15       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:35         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10  1:28   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 6/7] locking: Add an smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() for UNLOCK+LOCK barrier Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10  1:34     ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10  5:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 18:53         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 12:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:45       ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 20:11         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 17:18       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10  1:28   ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 7/7] rcu: Apply smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() to preserve grace periods Paul E. McKenney

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