From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] wait-simple: Introduce the simple waitqueue implementation
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:03:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131212160323.GJ21999@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131212094227.0a227f6f@gandalf.local.home>
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:42:27AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 12:44:47 +0100
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > Are these two barriers matched or are they both unmatched and thus
> > probabyl wrong?
>
> Nope, the two are unrelated. The the smp_wmb() is to synchronize with
> the swait_finish() code. When the task wakes up, it checks if w->task
> is NULL, and if it is it does not grab the head->lock and does not
> dequeue it, it simply exits, where the caller can then free the swaiter
> structure.
>
> Without the smp_wmb(), the curr->task can be set to NULL before we
> dequeue it, and if the woken up process sees that NULL, it can jump
> right to freeing the swaiter structure and cause havoc with this
> __swait_dequeue().
And yet the swait_finish thing does not have a barrier. Unmatched
barriers are highly suspect.
> The first smp_mb() is about the condition in:
>
> +#define __swait_event(wq, condition) \
> +do { \
> + DEFINE_SWAITER(__wait); \
> + \
> + for (;;) { \
> + swait_prepare(&wq, &__wait, TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE); \
> + if (condition) \
> + break; \
> + schedule(); \
> + } \
> + swait_finish(&wq, &__wait); \
> +} while (0)
>
> without the smp_mb(), it is possible that the condition can leak into
> the critical section of swait_prepare() and have the old condition seen
> before the task is added to the wait list. My submission of this patch
> described it in more details:
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/19/275
still a fail, barriers should not be described in changelogs but in
comments.
Typically such a barrier comes from set_current_state(), the normal
pattern is something like:
set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE)
if (!cond)
schedule();
__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
vs
cond = true;
wake_up_process(&foo);
Where set_current_state() implies the mb that separates the task-state
write from the condition read, and wake_up_process() implies enough
barrier to separate the condition write from its task state read.
And this is an explicit pairing.
The only reason you even need an explicit barrier is because you're not
using set_current_state(), which is your entire problem.
> > In any case the comments need updating to be more explicit.
>
> Yeah, I can add documentation about this as well. The smp_wmb() I think
> is probably documented enough, but the two smp_mb()s need a little more
> explanation.
No, the wmb needs to be far more explicit on why its ok (if it is indeed
ok) to not be balanced.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-12 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-12 1:06 [PATCH 0/3] Introduce simple wait queues Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 1:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] wait-simple: Introduce the simple waitqueue implementation Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 1:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 2:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 8:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-12 10:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-12 14:48 ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 15:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-12-12 15:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 15:30 ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-12 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-12 14:19 ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 16:17 ` Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-12 14:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-12-12 16:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 17:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-12 17:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-12 1:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched/core: convert completions to use simple wait queues Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 1:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] rcu: use simple wait queues where possible in rcutree Paul Gortmaker
2013-12-12 3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
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