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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: David Vrabel <dvrabel@cantab.net>,
	Mukesh Rathor <mukesh.rathor@oracle.com>,
	george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
	jbeulich@suse.com, roger.pau@citrix.com
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, JBeulich@suse.com
Subject: Re: Xen 4.1 + Linux compiled with PVH == BOOM
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:56:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131230195648.GA2937@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52B98686.9060009@cantab.net>

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 01:05:10PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 24/12/2013 12:55, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> > On 24/12/2013 12:31, David Vrabel wrote:
> >> On 20/12/2013 17:57, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>> Hey,
> >>>
> >>> This is with Linux and
> >>>
> >>> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/konrad/xen.git stable/pvh.v11
> >>>
> >>> I get Xen 4.1 (only) hypervisor to blow up with a Linux kernel that has been
> >>> compiled with PVH.
> >>>
> >>> I think the same problem would show up if I tried to launch a PV guest 
> >>> compiled as PVH under Xen 4.1 as well - as the ELF parsing code is shared
> >>> with the toolstack.
> >> If a kernel with both PVH and PV support enabled cannot boot in PV mode
> >> with a non-PVH aware hypervisor/toolstack then the kernel is broken.
> >>
> >> Hypervisor/tool-side fixes aren't the correct fix here.  Xen 4.1 and
> >> even older are still widely deployed.
> >>
> >> David
> > 
> > I believe that the problem is because the elf parsing code is not
> > sufficiently forward-compatible aware, and rejects the PVH kernel
> > because it has an unrecognised Xen elf note field.  This is not a kernel
> > bug.

It (Xen 4.1) has the logic to ignore unrecognized Xen elf note fields. But
it (all Xen versions) do not have the logic to ignore in the "SUPPORTED_FEATURES"
an unrecognized string.

> > 
> > The elf parsing should accept unrecognised fields for forward
> > compatibility, which would then allow a PV & PVH compiled kernel to run
> > in PV mode.
> 
> It should but it doesn't, so a different way needs to be found for the
> kernel to report (optional) PVH support.  A method that is compatible
> with older toolstacks.

Also known as changes to the PVH ABI.

Mukesh, Roger, George (emailing Ian instead since he is now the Release Manager-pro-temp), Jan,

a).  That means dropping the 'hvm_callback_vector' check from xc_dom_core.c and
just depending on: "writable_descriptor_tables|auto_translated_physmap|supervisor_mode_kernel"
for PVH guests.

b) Or dropping that altogether and introducing a new Xen elf note field, say:

XEN_ELFNOTE_PVH_VERSION


Which way should we do this?

P.S.
It looks like that the git tree is not accessible so I cannot update to the
latest git tree to produce an RFC patchset :-(

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-30 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20 17:57 Xen 4.1 + Linux compiled with PVH == BOOM Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-12-21  1:47 ` Mukesh Rathor
2013-12-21 11:09 ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-21 16:17   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-12-23  9:37   ` Jan Beulich
2013-12-23 11:49     ` Jan Beulich
2013-12-24  1:56       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-01-07  8:23         ` Jan Beulich
2014-01-07 11:31           ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-07 11:50             ` Jan Beulich
2014-01-07 13:39               ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-24 12:31 ` David Vrabel
2013-12-24 12:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2013-12-24 13:05     ` David Vrabel
2013-12-30 19:56       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2014-01-02 19:30         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-01-02 21:23           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-01-03 12:40             ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-01-03 14:35               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-01-03  0:27         ` Mukesh Rathor
2014-01-06 11:01           ` Ian Campbell

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