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From: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: Linux RAID Mailing List <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Why 4k native drives haven't arrived
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 02:25:51 +0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140113022551.656b95e1@natsu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B202E185-81A8-4F10-A311-521F2E7086BA@colorremedies.com>

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On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:04:53 -0700
Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:32 AM, "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> >>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com> writes:
> > 
> > Chris> I think this is a pretty craptastic thing for a vendor to do to
> > Chris> users. It doesn't matter that the overwhelming majority will buy
> > Chris> the product as a unit, and never remove it. It means some users
> > Chris> will need esoteric knowledge to recover their own data, a
> > Chris> recovery from data loss that's induced by ill conceived product
> > Chris> behavior.
> > 
> > Removing the physical drive from the USB enclosure is getting pretty far
> > away from "intended purpose".
> 
> It's common enough that it's predictable that a significant minority users will get into trouble with a product of this type. That even Mac users are pulling drives out of enclosures, for reasons other than troubleshooting, further demonstrates that it's not at all uncommon practice.

From what I remember reading about these drives, some of the newer ones are
just USB-only. There is no "enclosure" to speak of, that you could remove and
then simply plug the drive into SATA. It may be still possible, but certainly
not easy:
http://www.datarecoverytools.co.uk/2010/05/05/how-to-connect-and-recover-usb-only-western-digital-drives-with-hd-doctor-suite/

It does make sense for the manufacturers to roll-out these lesser-compatible
features on such USB-only drives first. Another instance where that was the
case, is the first 3 TB drives. They can manufacture and sell those with
confidence, knowing that no one will try to use the drive plugged directly into
their Windows XP PC with a 10-year-old BIOS.

-- 
With respect,
Roman

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-12 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-09 21:49 Why 4k native drives haven't arrived Chris Murphy
2014-01-12  4:01 ` Chris Murphy
2014-01-12 13:55   ` Martin K. Petersen
     [not found]     ` <F92ECEC1-D375-498B-8C6A-C88C815C325F@colorremedies.com>
2014-01-12 18:32       ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-12 19:04         ` Chris Murphy
2014-01-12 19:27           ` Chris Murphy
2014-01-12 20:25           ` Roman Mamedov [this message]
2014-01-12 18:41     ` Stan Hoeppner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-03  1:53 Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-03 11:23 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2014-01-03 11:27 ` Dimitri John Ledkov
2014-01-23  2:19   ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-03 21:04 ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-04 18:40   ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-06 23:35     ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-05 18:48   ` Peter Grandi
2014-01-06 23:50     ` Martin K. Petersen

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