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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:07:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140127230753.GF10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyajjkCtRiTOS2AbFOWi7qt2FUnW6T3iG9nXqoZ0O9Ljg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 02:43:14PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > do_signal() is also a place where arbitrary changes to regs might've
> > been done by tracer, so regs->cs might need to be checked in the same
> > place where we validate regs->rip ;-/
> 
> Fair enough. But it would still be really easy, and make the common
> case signal delivery a bit faster.
> 
> Now, sadly, most signal delivery is then followed by sigreturn (the
> exceptions being dying or doing a longjmp), so we'd still get the
> iretq then. But it would cut the iretq's related to signals in half.
> 
> We *could* try to do sigreturn with sysret and a small trampoline too,
> of course. But I'm not sure how far I'd want to take it.

The problem with validation is that we'll suddenly become sensitive to
hard-to-estimate pile of hardware bugs ;-/  E.g. which AMD-specific
errata is that comment in entry_64.S about?  The one I kinda-sorta
remember is Intel-specific, and that was about uncanonical RIP; looking
for AMD one has turned #353 (with suggested workaround being "have bit 16 set
in whatever you put into R11"), but I've no idea whether that's the only
potential issue there...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-27 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-26 22:28 [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27  0:22 ` Al Viro
2014-01-27  4:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27  4:48     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-27  7:42     ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 22:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-01-27 22:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27 22:32           ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 22:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-01-27 22:46               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-01-28  0:22                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28  0:44                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-01-27 23:07               ` Al Viro [this message]
2014-01-27 10:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-27 11:36   ` Al Viro
2014-01-27 17:39     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-28  1:18       ` Al Viro
2014-01-28 16:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-01-28 16:48           ` Al Viro
2014-01-28 17:19             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-06  0:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06  0:55   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-06  2:32     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06  4:33       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06 21:29         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-06 22:24           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-07  1:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-07 15:42               ` [RFC, PATCH] mm: map few pages around fault address if they are in page cache Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-07 17:32                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-07 17:56                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-02-07 18:11                     ` Andi Kleen
2014-02-06  5:42       ` [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath Ingo Molnar

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