From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from relay.sgi.com (relay2.corp.sgi.com [137.38.102.29]) by oss.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800167FAB for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2014 20:02:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from cuda.sgi.com (cuda2.sgi.com [192.48.176.25]) by relay2.corp.sgi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C133304070 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 2014 18:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ZenIV.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [195.92.253.2]) by cuda.sgi.com with ESMTP id IA98byOLW7q3YPkw (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:02:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:02:38 +0000 From: Al Viro Subject: Re: [RFC] unifying write variants for filesystems Message-ID: <20140202020238.GT10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20140118064040.GE10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140118074649.GF10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140118201031.GI10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140119051335.GN10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140120135514.GA21567@infradead.org> <20140201224301.GS10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: XFS Filesystem from SGI List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: xfs-bounces@oss.sgi.com Sender: xfs-bounces@oss.sgi.com To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jens Axboe , Steve French , Sage Weil , Dave Kleikamp , Mark Fasheh , xfs@oss.sgi.com, Christoph Hellwig , Joel Becker , linux-fsdevel , Anton Altaparmakov On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 04:13:36PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Al Viro wrote: > > > > BTW, Linus, when did you comment on that patchset? I've found an iteration > > of that patchset circa last October (v9, apparently the latest posted), > > but it looks like your comments had either got lost or had been on the > > earlier iteration of that thing... > > I commented on the pull request in November. Something like this: > > http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1311.2/02278.html > > and then I have a follow-up in a reply to that that at least outlines > a few things that could be done to make it less barfy. > > But judging from your email, you actually went through that > patch-series with a finer comb, I don't think there is anything in > that commentary of mine that adds anything to yours, apart on a > comment on the naming that I hated. Heh... You've actually been a lot more polite than what I started to write on that particular topic. Mine had started with "folks, identifiers should be possible to read aloud, without the people around getting nervous. I mean, ai,ai-ai,owwie-...?" and then got so nasty that I decided to leave the whole thing alone. But yes, references to the importance of remembering the safeword aside, the naming is really atrocious. _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@oss.sgi.com http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Al Viro Subject: Re: [RFC] unifying write variants for filesystems Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 02:02:38 +0000 Message-ID: <20140202020238.GT10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20140118064040.GE10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140118074649.GF10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140118201031.GI10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140119051335.GN10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20140120135514.GA21567@infradead.org> <20140201224301.GS10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Jens Axboe , Mark Fasheh , Joel Becker , linux-fsdevel , xfs@oss.sgi.com, Sage Weil , Steve French , Dave Kleikamp , Anton Altaparmakov To: Linus Torvalds Return-path: Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:36282 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750936AbaBBCCt (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Feb 2014 21:02:49 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 04:13:36PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Al Viro wrote: > > > > BTW, Linus, when did you comment on that patchset? I've found an iteration > > of that patchset circa last October (v9, apparently the latest posted), > > but it looks like your comments had either got lost or had been on the > > earlier iteration of that thing... > > I commented on the pull request in November. Something like this: > > http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1311.2/02278.html > > and then I have a follow-up in a reply to that that at least outlines > a few things that could be done to make it less barfy. > > But judging from your email, you actually went through that > patch-series with a finer comb, I don't think there is anything in > that commentary of mine that adds anything to yours, apart on a > comment on the naming that I hated. Heh... You've actually been a lot more polite than what I started to write on that particular topic. Mine had started with "folks, identifiers should be possible to read aloud, without the people around getting nervous. I mean, ai,ai-ai,owwie-...?" and then got so nasty that I decided to leave the whole thing alone. But yes, references to the importance of remembering the safeword aside, the naming is really atrocious.