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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Kees Cook <kees@outflux.net>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	macro@linux-mips.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, dave.taht@gmail.com,
	blogic@openwrt.org, andrewmcgr@gmail.com, smueller@chronox.de,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, tg@mirbsd.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH,RFC] random: collect cpu randomness
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 02:44:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140207074436.GA11178@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140206222002.GC23300@outflux.net>

On Thu, 6 February 2014 14:20:02 -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 03:36:17PM -0500, Jörn Engel wrote:
> > Collects entropy from random behaviour all modern cpus exhibit.  The
> > scheduler and slab allocator are instrumented for this purpose.  How
> > much randomness can be gathered is clearly hardware-dependent and hard
> > to estimate.  Therefore the entropy estimate is zero, but random bits
> > still get mixed into the pools.
> 
> Have you seen this work from PaX Team?
> 
> http://grsecurity.net/pipermail/grsecurity/2012-July/001093.html

Interesting.

> See http://grsecurity.net/test/grsecurity-3.0-3.13.1-201402052349.patch
> and search for PAX_LATENT_ENTROPY.

Server gives me an error.  Archive.org doesn't have a copy either,
thanks to robots.txt.

Can you send me a copy via mail?

Jörn

--
Functionality is an asset, but code is a liability.
--Ted Dziuba

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-07  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-02 20:36 [PATCH,RFC] random: collect cpu randomness Jörn Engel
2014-02-02 21:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2014-02-03  1:24   ` Jörn Engel
2014-02-03  1:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-03 13:36     ` Stephan Mueller
2014-02-03  1:39   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-02-03  3:35     ` Jörn Engel
2014-02-03 12:54     ` Thorsten Glaser
2014-02-03 13:06     ` Stephan Mueller
2014-02-03 15:50 ` Jörn Engel
2014-02-03 16:37   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-02-03 18:48     ` Jörn Engel
2014-03-23 18:00       ` [PATCH] random: mix all saved registers into entropy pool Jörn Engel
2014-02-03 21:54     ` [PATCH,RFC] random: collect cpu randomness Maciej W. Rozycki
2014-02-03 22:44       ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-02-06 22:20 ` Kees Cook
2014-02-06 22:21   ` Dave Taht
2014-02-07  7:44   ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2014-02-20  9:50 ` Paolo Bonzini

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