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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Michael Opdenacker <michael.opdenacker@free-electrons.com>,
	Piergiorgio Beruto <piergiorgio.beruto@gmail.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:27:15 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210082714.GB10872@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1392017750.31031.8.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:35:50AM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 23:48 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:51:57AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > [..]
> > > 
> > > > > This I think it's a bad idea to artificially remove some features
> > > > > if they're not broken.
> > > > 
> > > > Your arguments have convinced me, let's keep it and hope the best.
> > > 
> > 
> > Let me add that keeping the write support follows the whole "mechanism,
> > not policy" kernel motto, doesn't it?
> > 
> > Regarding users, well the option looks like this:
> > 
> >   [ ]     Enable write support (DANGEROUS)
> > 
> > I think any user would think twice before enabling it.
> 
> Linus and Andrew usually ask reasonable questions like these for new
> features. I'd like to ask them for the write feature.
> 
> Who are the customers for these?
> How are the user of the write feature? How many?

I'm not aware of any. So far all the users that I'm aware of will be using
this to mount a squashfs.

> Have it been tested? If yes, how?
> 

To be honest, not much.

> These are really the things which define whether the feature should be
> in or not, I think.
> 
> If write support has 0 or 1.5 customers and it was not tested
> extensively, and never used in any kind of production, I am not sure it
> is needed to be there. But let's first hear your answers.
> 

No, this hasn't been tested intensively and I'm pretty sure nobody would
ever put it in production before conducting such tests himself.

> It is simple is not good argument. It will be as simple to add it too.
> 

OK.

> WRT to DANGEROUS sign, people do not read Kconfig help. Some distro will
> just enable this, people will start using this, and then start sending
> unappy e-mails. We have this with MTD block. No matter how many times I
> wrote to people that this is just a debugging module, they still kept
> using it.
> 

If you really think distros will enable it and users will "just it", without
thinking about the consequences, then I'd say let's just remove it.
-- 
Ezequiel García, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android Engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-29 20:38 [PATCH 0/1] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes Ezequiel Garcia
2014-01-29 20:38 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Ezequiel Garcia
2014-01-31 17:06   ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-04 11:06     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-08 16:50       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-08 21:37   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 22:51     ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 22:56       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:01         ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 23:10           ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2014-02-08 23:13           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:15             ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-08 23:25               ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-08 23:37                 ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-09  0:17                   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-09  7:51                     ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  2:48                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  7:35                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10  8:27                           ` Ezequiel Garcia [this message]
2014-02-10  8:46                             ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 14:20                               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10 14:41                                 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10 14:50                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10 14:52                                   ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2014-02-10 16:15                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10 14:53                                   ` Bityutskiy, Artem
2014-02-10 18:48                                   ` Ezequiel Garcia
     [not found]                                     ` <a86d653a-9e3b-46dc-9ec8-94a9c1099bec@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 21:43                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-11  8:37                                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-11  9:05                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-11  9:35                                             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-11  9:43                                           ` Peter Korsgaard
2014-02-11 10:21                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-10 22:37                                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found]                                       ` <de976336-3144-4f21-859b-d1a37fc3d811@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 22:46                                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
     [not found]                                           ` <a3fc06a8-c809-4687-9da4-015bd8dd29e8@email.android.com>
2014-02-10 23:01                                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-10 23:19                                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  8:50                             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-08 23:05         ` Piergiorgio Beruto
2014-02-08 23:13           ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  8:42       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-10  8:51         ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  1:29     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  7:53       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10  8:12         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-10  8:24           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-10  8:37             ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-10  8:50             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-09 22:56   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-10  2:36     ` Ezequiel Garcia

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