From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Jones Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:57:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: (max6650) Rename the device ids to contain the hwmon suffix Message-Id: <20140211095717.GI32042@lee--X1> List-Id: References: <1392045953-26596-1-git-send-email-lpapp@kde.org> <20140210160842.GB26997@lee--X1> <20140210173811.04ba5964@endymion.delvare> <20140211085014.4ef32b56@endymion.delvare> <1392108545.4700.4.camel@chaos.site> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Laszlo Papp Cc: Jean Delvare , LKML , lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org PiA+PiBUaW1lIHRvIHJldmlzaXQgdGhpcyBkZWNpc2lvbi4uLi4KPiA+Pgo+ID4+IFNvLCBiYXNl ZCBvbiB0aGUgZmFjdCB0aGF0IGNoaWxkcmVuIGRldmljZSBuYW1lcyB1c3VhbGx5IGNvbnRhaW4K PiA+PiBkYXNoZXMsIEkgZG8gbm90IHVuZGVyc3RhbmQgd2h5IGh3bW9uIHdvdWxkIGJlIGFueSBz cGVjaWFsIGluIHRoaXMKPiA+PiByZWdhcmQuIEl0IGlzIHBvc3NpYmxlIHRoYXQgdGhlIGh3bW9u IGRldmVsb3BlcnMgaGF2ZSBub3QgZmFjZWQgbXVjaAo+ID4+IE1GRCBzaXR1YXRpb24gYmVmb3Jl LCBhbmQgc28sIHRoaXMgd2FzIG5vdCBjb25zaWRlcmVkIHRvIGJlIGhhbmRsZWQKPiA+PiBsaWtl IGluIG90aGVyIHN1YnN5c3RlbXMuCj4gPj4KPiA+PiBJIGFtIHByb3Bvc2luZyB0byBjaGFuZ2Ug dGhpcyAicnVsZSIuLi4gIEFueSBvYmplY3Rpb24/Cj4gPgo+ID4gSSdtIGdpdmluZyB1cCBoZXJl LCBzb3JyeS4gVGhlcmUncyBubyBwb2ludCBpbiBtZSB3cml0aW5nIGFueSBtb3JlIG9uCj4gPiB0 aGUgdG9waWMgYXMgeW91IGFyZSBub3QgbGlzdGVuaW5nIHRvIG1lLiBJIGRvIG5vdCBoYXZlIHRo ZSBpbXByZXNzaW9uCj4gPiB5b3UgYXJlIGRvaW5nIGFueSBlZmZvcnQgdG8gdW5kZXJzdGFuZCB3 aGF0IEknbSBzYXlpbmcuIFBsdXMgeW91IGtlZXAKPiA+IGZvY3VzaW5nIG9uIHRoaW5ncyB0aGF0 IGRvIG5vdCBtYXR0ZXIgYW5kIHByb2JsZW1zIGZvciB3aGljaCBhIHNvbHV0aW9uCj4gPiBoYXMg YWxyZWFkeSBiZWVuIHByb3ZpZGVkLgo+IAo+IERvZXMgaXQgbWVhbiB0aGUgcGVvcGxlIGNhbm5v dCBjb21lIHVwIHdpdGggaWRlYXMgaWYgdGhleSB0aGluawo+IHNvbWV0aGluZyBtYXkgYmUgYmV0 dGVyIHRoYW4gc29tZSBwcm92aWRlZCB3YXk/IFN1cmVseSwgc29mdHdhcmUKPiBldm9sdmVzIG92 ZXIgdGltZSBhbmQgcGVvcGxlIGFyZSBzb21ldGltZXMgcmlnaHQsIGFuZCBzb21ldGltZXMgd3Jv bmcKPiByaWdodD8KPiAKPiBJIGNhbiBhc3N1cmUgeW91IHRoYXQgSSBkbyBsaXN0ZW4sIHBsZWFz ZSBhc3N1bWUgZ29vZCBmYWl0aCB3aXRoIGlkZWFzCj4gdGhyb3duIGluLiBJZiB5b3UgdGhpbmsg aXQgaXMgdGhhdCBiYWQgYW4gaWRlYSwgeW91IGNvdWxkIGhhdmUKPiBleHBsYWluZWQgd2h5IHNv LCBzbyB0aGF0IEkgYW5kIG90aGVycyBjYW4gYWxzbyB1bmRlcnN0YW5kIGl0IHdobyBkbwo+IG5v dCB5ZXQsIHJpZ2h0PwoKSW4gdGhlIHNtYWxsIGFtb3VudCBvZiB0aW1lIHlvdSd2ZSBiZWVuIHdv cmtpbmcgaW4gdGhlIGtlcm5lbCBJJ3ZlCnNlZW4gMy00IE1haW50YWluZXJzIGNvbXBsZXRlbHkg Z2l2ZSB1cCBvbiB5b3UgYW5kIDItMyBkcml2ZW4gY2xvc2UgdG8KdGhlIGVuZCBvZiB0aGVpciB0 ZXRoZXIgKG15c2VsZiBpbmNsdWRlZCkuCgpSYW50aW5nIGFuZCBkZW1hbmRpbmcgd2lsbCBub3Qg d29yayB3ZWxsIGZvciB5b3UgaGVyZS4gUGxlYXNlLCBmb3IKeW91ciBvd24gc2FrZSwgbGVhcm4g c29tZSBkaXBsb21hY3kgYW5kIGJlIGNvdXJ0ZW91cyB0byBvdGhlcnMgb24gdGhlCmxpc3QuIElm IHBlb3BsZSBhcmUgcmVwbHlpbmcgaXQgbWVhbnMgdGhleSdyZSB0cnlpbmcgdG8gaGVscC4gSnVt cGluZwpkb3duIHRoZWlyIHRocm9hdHMgaXMgbm90IGNvbmR1Y2l2ZSB0byB5b3VyIHN1Y2Nlc3Mg YW5kIHdpbGwgbm90CnJlc3VsdCBpbiBhIHdpbi4gIAoKLS0gCkxlZSBKb25lcwpMaW5hcm8gU1RN aWNyb2VsZWN0cm9uaWNzIExhbmRpbmcgVGVhbSBMZWFkCkxpbmFyby5vcmcg4pSCIE9wZW4gc291 cmNlIHNvZnR3YXJlIGZvciBBUk0gU29DcwpGb2xsb3cgTGluYXJvOiBGYWNlYm9vayB8IFR3aXR0 ZXIgfCBCbG9nCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f XwpsbS1zZW5zb3JzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApsbS1zZW5zb3JzQGxtLXNlbnNvcnMub3JnCmh0dHA6 Ly9saXN0cy5sbS1zZW5zb3JzLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2xtLXNlbnNvcnM From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751525AbaBKJ5b (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:57:31 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:56448 "EHLO mail-wi0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751415AbaBKJ5X (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:57:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:57:17 +0000 From: Lee Jones To: Laszlo Papp Cc: Jean Delvare , LKML , lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH] hwmon: (max6650) Rename the device ids to contain the hwmon suffix Message-ID: <20140211095717.GI32042@lee--X1> References: <1392045953-26596-1-git-send-email-lpapp@kde.org> <20140210160842.GB26997@lee--X1> <20140210173811.04ba5964@endymion.delvare> <20140211085014.4ef32b56@endymion.delvare> <1392108545.4700.4.camel@chaos.site> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > >> Time to revisit this decision.... > >> > >> So, based on the fact that children device names usually contain > >> dashes, I do not understand why hwmon would be any special in this > >> regard. It is possible that the hwmon developers have not faced much > >> MFD situation before, and so, this was not considered to be handled > >> like in other subsystems. > >> > >> I am proposing to change this "rule"... Any objection? > > > > I'm giving up here, sorry. There's no point in me writing any more on > > the topic as you are not listening to me. I do not have the impression > > you are doing any effort to understand what I'm saying. Plus you keep > > focusing on things that do not matter and problems for which a solution > > has already been provided. > > Does it mean the people cannot come up with ideas if they think > something may be better than some provided way? Surely, software > evolves over time and people are sometimes right, and sometimes wrong > right? > > I can assure you that I do listen, please assume good faith with ideas > thrown in. If you think it is that bad an idea, you could have > explained why so, so that I and others can also understand it who do > not yet, right? In the small amount of time you've been working in the kernel I've seen 3-4 Maintainers completely give up on you and 2-3 driven close to the end of their tether (myself included). Ranting and demanding will not work well for you here. Please, for your own sake, learn some diplomacy and be courteous to others on the list. If people are replying it means they're trying to help. Jumping down their throats is not conducive to your success and will not result in a win. -- Lee Jones Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog