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From: Courtney Cavin <courtney.cavin@sonymobile.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Josh Cartwright <joshc@codeaurora.org>,
	"s-anna@ti.com" <s-anna@ti.com>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	"Wysocki, Rafael J" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@calxeda.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	"omar.ramirez@copitl.com" <omar.ramirez@copitl.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/6] mailbox: add core framework
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:16:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140214201652.GI1706@sonymobile.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201402142048.25456.arnd@arndb.de>

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 08:48:25PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 February 2014, Courtney Cavin wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 09:35:01AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Monday 10 February 2014 16:23:48 Courtney Cavin wrote:
> 
> > Then again, I think that the context management stuff is the exception as well,
> > and I think that can/should also be handled in a higher level.  Regardless, I
> > went ahead and drafted the async flags idea out anyway, so here's some
> > pseudo-code.  I also tried to shoe-horn in 'peek', and you can see how that
> > turns out.  Let me know if this is something like what you had in mind.
> 
> The async implementation looks good to me, assuming we actually need both
> sync and async operations, which I can't tell for sure.

Yea, I would like some further input on that specifically.  I have added
Linus Walleij and Jassi Brar, who have had good input on mailboxes in
the past, and somehow I missed in this series.

> For the peek operation, it wouldn't work for the ethernet case, which
> has to call it from atomic context in net_rx_action.

It wouldn't work if the mbox is not requested with MBOX_ASYNC, but
otherwise that should be fine, as it would just peek into the kfifo.
That doesn't seem like a desirable method for ethernet use-case though,
as it ends up being two extra copies.

> > 	/**
> > 	 * so this is where this lock makes things difficult, as this function
> > 	 * might_sleep(), but only really because of the lock.  Either we can
> > 	 * remove the lock and force the adapter to do its own locking
> > 	 * spinlock-style, or we can accept the sleep here, which seems a bit
> > 	 * stupid in a peek function.  Neither option is good.  Additionally,
> > 	 * there's no guarantee that the adapter doesn't operate over a bus
> > 	 * which itself might_sleep(), exacerbating the problem.
> > 	 */
> > 	mutex_lock(&mbox->adapter->lock);
> > 	rc = mbox->adapter->ops->peek_message(mbox->adapter, mbox->chan, msg);
> > 	mutex_lock(&mbox->adapter->lock);
> 
> If we decide that peek() must not sleep, any driver that operates on a
> slow bus could just always report "no data" here.

Yes indeed, or it could just not implement peek, which seems reasonable.

> Moving the locking into the mbox driver here sounds appropriate.

I don't really like doing that for the entirety of the mbox core, as it
makes the simple adapters harder to write properly.  Since peek is not
a typical use-case, perhaps we could remove the locking for just peek,
and have a Big Fat Warning in the description of how to properly
implement it?

> 	Arnd

Thanks for the input!

-Courtney

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-14 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-08  0:50 [RFC 0/6] mailbox: add common framework and port drivers Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50 ` Courtney Cavin
     [not found] ` <1391820619-25487-1-git-send-email-courtney.cavin-/MT0OVThwyLZJqsBc5GL+g@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-08  0:50   ` [RFC 1/6] mailbox: add core framework Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50     ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-10 14:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-10 17:17       ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-10 17:52       ` Rob Herring
2014-02-10 19:09         ` Josh Cartwright
2014-02-10 19:59           ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-10 20:45             ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11  0:23               ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-11  8:35                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-12 18:31                   ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-14 19:48                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-14 20:16                       ` Courtney Cavin [this message]
2014-02-08  0:50 ` [RFC 2/6] mailbox: document bindings Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50   ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50 ` [RFC 3/6] mailbox: pl320: migrate to mbox framework Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50   ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-10 18:28   ` Rob Herring
2014-02-10 19:12     ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50 ` [RFC 4/6] mailbox: omap: remove omap-specific framework Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50   ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50 ` [RFC 5/6] mailbox: omap1: move to common mbox framework Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50   ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50 ` [RFC 6/6] mailbox: omap2+: " Courtney Cavin
2014-02-08  0:50   ` Courtney Cavin
2014-02-15  3:32 ` [RFC 0/6] mailbox: add common framework and port drivers Jassi Brar
2014-02-15  3:40   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-02-15  3:57     ` Jassi Brar
2014-02-15  4:11       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-02-15  4:14         ` Jassi Brar

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