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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Michael Opdenacker <michael.opdenacker@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Piergiorgio Beruto <piergiorgio.beruto@gmail.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/3] ubi: Add block interface
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:11:14 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140217111113.GA21782@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1392634420.12215.154.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com>

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:53:40PM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-02-17 at 07:48 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:19:52PM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2014-02-16 at 17:03 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> > > > The main target of this patch is supporting lighter, read-only
> > > > filesystem,
> > > > by putting a squashfs on top of ubiblock. And since squashfs already
> > > > provides
> > > > a file cache (which is even configurable), a first uncached
> > > > implementation
> > > > it's good enough for now.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't Linux provide a fake inode for _every_ block device, and uses
> > > page-cache to cache pages?
> > > 
> > > There is even entire special-purpose file-system for managing these fake
> > > block device inodes, see fs/block_dev.c
> > > 
> > > static struct file_system_type bd_type = {
> > >         .name           = "bdev",
> > >         .mount          = bd_mount,
> > >         .kill_sb        = kill_anon_super,
> > > };
> > > 
> > > I am really not sure which other cache do we need. The only thing coming
> > > to my mind is about emulating a HW disk cache in software. But I would
> > > not go that far without a really good reason.
> > > 
> > 
> > If we ever re-add the write support, it would be natural to implement it
> > using a 1-LEB cache. Block sectors are much much smaller than LEB's
> > (around three orders of magnitude), so we would want to read an entire
> > LEB into a 1-LEB buffer, update the buffer, and then write it back.
> > 
> > In this scheme, it's almost straightforward to keep this buffer around
> > as a cache, and only write-back to disk when the new read/write requests
> > asks for a different LEB.
> > 
> > IIRC, this is the main reason why we had the 1-LEB cache.
> 
> May be. But you are submitting R/O driver. And yet talk about caches and
> write support in several places. Caches are only relevant to write
> support. Write support is absent. Let's focus on what is present.
> 
> Feel free to put all the thoughts about a possible write support
> implementation to a single big comment in the code. That's fine. I do
> not object. I just want to focus on what is present.
> 

Totally agreed. Those comments were just a product of my own inertia.

If at all possible, take a look at the website doc and I'll push a new
round soon.

Thanks for the review,
-- 
Ezequiel García, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android Engineering
http://free-electrons.com

      reply	other threads:[~2014-02-17 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-16 20:03 [PATCH v6 0/3] ubi: Add block interface Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-16 20:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ubi: Introduce block devices for UBI volumes Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-17 10:45   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-17 11:27     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-17 11:34       ` Willy Tarreau
2014-02-25 15:30     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-17 15:10   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-17 15:49     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-17 15:22   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-18 20:32     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-16 20:04 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] ubi-utils: Add ubiblkvol tool Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-18  7:54   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-18 20:20     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-16 20:04 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] UBI: Add block interface documentation Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-17 10:19 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] ubi: Add block interface Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-17 10:48   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-02-17 10:53     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2014-02-17 11:11       ` Ezequiel Garcia [this message]

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