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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Fyodorov <halcy@yandex.ru>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutro>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/8] qspinlock, x86: Add x86 specific optimization for 2 contending tasks
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:56:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140228175645.GA6835@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5310BB81.3090508@hp.com>



> After modifying it to do a deterministic cmpxchg, the test run time of 2
> contending tasks jumps up from 600ms (best case) to about 1700ms which was
> worse than the original qspinlock's 1300-1500ms. It is the opportunistic
> nature of the xchg() code that can potentially combine multiple steps in the
> deterministic atomic sequence which can saves time. Without that, I would
> rather prefer going back to the basic qspinlock queuing sequence for 2
> contending tasks.
> 
> Please take a look at the performance data in my patch 3 to see if the
> slowdown at 2 and 3 contending tasks are acceptable or not.

Right; so I've gone back to a simple version (~200 lines) that's fairly
easy to comprehend (to me, since I wrote it). And will now try to see if
I can find the same state transitions in your code.

I find your code somewhat hard to follow; mostly due to those xchg() +
fixup thingies. But I'll get there.

> The reason why I need a whole byte for the lock bit is because of the simple
> unlock code of assigning 0 to the lock byte by the lock holder. Utilizing
> other bits in the low byte for other purpose will complicate the unlock path
> and slow down the no-contention case.

Yeah, I get why you need a whole byte for the lock part, I was asking if
we really need another whole byte for the pending part.

So in my version I think I see an optimization case where this is indeed
useful and I can trade an atomic op for a write barrier, which should be
a big win.

It just wasn't at all clear (to me) from your code.

(I also think the optimization isn't x86 specific)

> >>The code is unfair, but this unfairness help it to run faster than ticket
> >>spinlock in this particular case. And the regular qspinlock slowpath is
> >>fair. A little bit of unfairness in this particular case helps its speed.

> >*groan*, no, unfairness not cool. ticket lock is absolutely fair; we
> >should preserve this.
> 
> We can preserve that by removing patch 3.

I've got a version that does the pending thing and still is entirely
fair.

I don't think the concept of the extra spinner is incompatible with
fairness.

> >BTW; can you share your benchmark thingy?
> 
> I have attached the test program that I used to generate the timing data for
> patch 3.

Thanks, I'll have a play.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-28 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-26 15:14 [PATCH v5 0/8] qspinlock: a 4-byte queue spinlock with PV support Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 16:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:25     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:25     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 16:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:25     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:25     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] qspinlock, x86: Enable x86-64 to use queue spinlock Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] qspinlock, x86: Add x86 specific optimization for 2 contending tasks Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 16:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:42     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28  9:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28  9:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 16:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-28 17:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 17:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 16:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-28 16:38         ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 16:38         ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 17:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 17:56           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-03-03 17:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 15:27             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 15:27             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 16:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 16:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 18:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 18:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 17:48             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 22:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 20:59                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 20:59                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 22:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 17:48             ` Waiman Long
2014-03-03 17:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:42     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a real PV environment Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:07   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-26 17:07   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-28 17:06     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-03 10:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 15:15         ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 15:23           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 15:23           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 15:39           ` David Vrabel
2014-03-04 15:39           ` David Vrabel
2014-03-04 17:50           ` Raghavendra K T
2014-03-04 17:50           ` Raghavendra K T
2014-03-04 15:15         ` Waiman Long
2014-03-03 10:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-28 17:06     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 12:28   ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 12:28   ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 19:40     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:40     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 5/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable unfair queue spinlock in a KVM guest Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:08   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-28 17:08     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 17:08     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:08   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-27  9:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27  9:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 19:05     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:05     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 10:40   ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-27 19:12     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:12     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 10:40   ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 6/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Rename paravirt_ticketlocks_enabled Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 7/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Add qspinlock para-virtualization support Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:54   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-26 17:54   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-27 12:11   ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 12:11   ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 13:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 13:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 14:18       ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 14:18       ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 14:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 15:22           ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-27 15:50             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-03 11:06               ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-03-03 11:06               ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 15:50             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 20:50             ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:50             ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 15:22           ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-27 19:42           ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:42           ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 14:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 8/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable KVM to use qspinlock's PV support Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27  9:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 18:36     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 18:36     ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27  9:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 17:00 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] qspinlock: a 4-byte queue spinlock with " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-26 17:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-28 16:56   ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 16:56   ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 22:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-26 22:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-02-27  4:32 Waiman Long
2014-02-27  4:32 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] qspinlock, x86: Add x86 specific optimization for 2 contending tasks Waiman Long
2014-03-02 13:16   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-03-04 14:54     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 14:54       ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 14:54     ` Waiman Long
2014-03-02 13:16   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-02-27  4:32 ` Waiman Long

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