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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] remove xend for 4.5 (Was: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:07:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140331150727.GH3159@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1396264733.8667.13.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>

On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:18:53PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 13:09 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:08:47AM +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 14:02 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > >> On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 13:32 +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > > >> >  Which reminds me - didn't you want to rip out xend
> > > >> > right away after 4.4 (which would render pointless the patch
> > > >> > here)?
> > > >>
> > > >> I still want to do it before 4.5, this is more of a short term thing
> > > >> because people were sending me patches right now.
> > > >>
> > > >> Step one of the removal is to stop osstest from testing xend, I sent a
> > > >> patch for that a week or two ago.
> > > >
> > > > That patch is now in place in the production osstest. So I propose the
> > > > following pull request (since the actual patch is nearly 3M in size,
> > > > even the diffstat here is bigger than most patches!).
> > > 
> > > On my list of dependencies for removing xend, I have the following:
> > > 
> > > * xend still in tree (x)
> > >  - xl list -l on a dom0-only system
> > >  - xl list -l doesn't contain tty console port
> > >  - xl Alternate transport support for migration*
> > >  - xl PVSCSI support
> > >  - xl PVUSB support
> > >  - xl support for vnc and vnclisten options with PV guests
> > 
> > I don't really like adding more of 'xend has this' to the list,
> 
> that's ok.
> 
> > but
> > Jan discovered that 'xend' was using the group assigment hypercall for
> > PCI devices while 'xl' is not doing that. 
> >  
> > That hypercall has certain benefits - you can use it to figure out if 
> > all of the PCI devices underneath a bridge are assigned to one
> > guest and not shared amongts the guests.
> 
> I think this is at the wishlist rather than blocker end of the spectrum,
> and probably falls under the general category of "xl pci passthrough has
> sharp edges"? Does that sound right?

Yes, they are hazardous to ones health.
> 
> Ian.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-31 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-20 13:20 [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry Ian Campbell
2014-03-20 13:32 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-20 14:02   ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 11:00     ` [GIT PULL] remove xend for 4.5 (Was: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry) Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 11:08       ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 11:18         ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:03           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 12:12             ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:15               ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 12:23                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:01         ` Olaf Hering
2014-03-27 12:13           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 12:14           ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:31             ` Olaf Hering
2014-03-28 17:09         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-31 11:18           ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-31 11:56             ` Matt Wilson
2014-03-31 12:03               ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 12:16                 ` Matt Wilson
2014-03-31 13:17                   ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 14:05                     ` Fabio Fantoni
2014-03-31 14:08                       ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 14:52                         ` Sander Eikelenboom
2014-03-31 15:07             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2014-03-31 13:13           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 15:06             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-20 13:32 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry Ian Jackson
2014-03-20 14:04   ` Ian Campbell

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