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From: Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.de>
To: Filipe David Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Btrfs: send, bump stream version
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:04:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140415180415.GF7901@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL3q7H4dcDeDZ-j6w5eH-AjE8TZSR0KZJbRJPeNQect-KA_OQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 06:57:17PM +0100, Filipe David Manana wrote:
> >> > Are these changes compatible with software using the old stream version? We
> >> > have snapshotting tools that are using send/recieve and it would be bad to
> >> > change the ABI in incompatible ways underneath them.
> >> >         --Mark
> >>
> >> New versions of btrfs-progs (send stream v2 support) will still be
> >> able to read and process v1 streams. Older btrfs-progs (v1 only) won't
> >> be able to process the new commands.
> >> Does this answers your question Mark?
> >
> > Yes it does thanks. Unfortunately though this is unacceptable behavior -
> > kernel upgrades are not supposed to break existing userspace interfaces.
> >
> > In particular what will happen here is that the user will grab a new kernel
> > and then find out that their fancy snapshotting software won't work any
> > more.
> 
> Good point. I followed this approach based on Josef's comments on a
> previous rfc at http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg32999.html

Apparently Josef doesn't get those sorts of bugs in his queue ;)


> The only alternative I can think of right now is to use new send ioctl
> flags instead, so that new clients able to process the new commands
> will pass these flags explicitly, while old clients would continue to
> work without changes (and not bumping the stream version, as
> btrfs-receive refuses versions higher than 1 currently). This seems to
> be similar to what was done here:
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/commit/?id=cb95e7bf7ba481c3d35b238b1cd671b63f54238a

Yeah that works for me - any client that understand the new features just
sends some flag that indicates it can process them. Then we know that old
clients will continue to work unaffected.

Thanks Filipe,
	--Mark

--
Mark Fasheh

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-15 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-15 16:40 [PATCH 1/4] Btrfs: send, bump stream version Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-15 16:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] Btrfs: send, implement total data size command to allow for progress estimation Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-16 14:50   ` [PATCH 2/4 v2] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-15 16:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] Btrfs: send, use fallocate command to punch holes Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-16 14:51   ` [PATCH 3/4 v2] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-16 16:16   ` [PATCH 3/4 v3] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-15 16:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] Btrfs: send, use fallocate command to allocate extents Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-16 14:52   ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-16 17:56   ` [PATCH 4/4 v3] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-15 17:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] Btrfs: send, bump stream version Mark Fasheh
2014-04-15 17:34   ` Filipe David Manana
2014-04-15 17:41     ` Mark Fasheh
2014-04-15 17:57       ` Filipe David Manana
2014-04-15 18:04         ` Mark Fasheh [this message]
2014-04-15 18:10           ` Josef Bacik
2014-04-15 18:30             ` Filipe David Manana
2014-04-15 19:35               ` Mark Fasheh
2014-04-15 19:49                 ` Filipe David Manana
2014-04-18 17:18                   ` David Sterba
2014-04-18 19:58                     ` Filipe David Manana
2014-04-16 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-04-20 14:01   ` [PATCH 1/6 v3] " Filipe David Borba Manana
2014-06-23 12:00 ` [PATCH 1/6 v5] " Filipe David Borba Manana

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