From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Reviewing new API/ABI
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 12:00:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140506190024.GA1004@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU_xrdgUNF55YU+8rfq2xK0cU3QybQhqvX4L8OgsiwG5A@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 10:45:05AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> There doesn't currently seem to be any real process for reviewing new
> core APIs for sanity of design, appropriateness to solve the problem
> they're targetting, or correctness of implementation. Some examples
> that come to mind recently:
>
> - A lot of people seem to think that O_TMPFILE is a terrible
> interface, despite the fact that the functionality it provides is very
> useful. It was also rather badly broken until -rc8 or so.
>
> - The x86 32-bit vdso clock functions almost made it in with a
> questionable symbol version.
>
> - 3.15 is currently slated to include an unfortunate ABI glitch in
> the MIPS seccomp filter interface. There's a patch.
>
> - There are some aspects of the keyring API that seem to me to be quite bad.
>
> - An impressive number of new APIs are missing -EINVAL returns if
> reserved parameters are set.
>
> (I'm not trying to point a finger at anyone with these examples;
> they're just things that I was involved in to some extent.)
>
> The current process is confused. For example, I currently plan on
> trying to remember to ask Linus to revert the MIPS seccomp stuff or
> fix it sometime around -rc6 if the patch hasn't landed, but this
> sucks.
>
> I think that the process could be improved. I think that there are
> people who are willing to spend time to read API docs and thinking
> about these kinds of issues. (I am, and Michael Kerrisk seems to do a
> fair amount of it.)
We do have linux-api, which should be cc:ed for new api additions. But
it usually isn't :(
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-06 19:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-06 17:45 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Reviewing new API/ABI Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 17:58 ` josh
2014-05-06 19:12 ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-06 19:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 19:37 ` Shuah Khan
2014-05-06 19:21 ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-06 19:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 19:48 ` Johannes Berg
2014-05-06 19:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-06 19:45 ` josh
2014-05-06 20:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-06 20:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-07 10:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-07 12:36 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-05-07 13:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-05-07 13:50 ` Hans Verkuil
2014-05-12 14:15 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-05-07 17:48 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 19:00 ` Greg KH [this message]
2014-05-06 20:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-06 20:34 ` Josh Triplett
2014-05-06 20:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-06 21:00 ` josh
2014-05-07 11:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-08 6:35 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-12 6:37 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-07 6:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-06 19:57 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-05-08 18:15 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-09 11:33 ` Jeff Layton
2014-05-09 11:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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