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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>,
	Holger Hans Peter Freyther <holger@moiji-mobile.com>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] xhci: 'noxhci_port_switch' kernel parameter
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 06:59:26 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521215926.GA15454@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA9_cmfTy73WxtcCp45eWK-d-ZDH2=EbmPxLVPvdL1p48kfv7g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:29:09AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:21:03PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> >> Greg,
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry, I don't think it is fair to users to force them to re-compile
> >> >> their kernel to get their device to work.
> >> >
> >> > I totally agree.
> >> >
> >> >> Granted, I'm new to USB
> >> >> development, but the rate of reports of endpoint devices that mess up
> >> >> and require quirks in the hcd-driver or usb-core seems un-ending to
> >> >> me.  So, I don't think it is fair to expect that the tide of quirky
> >> >> devices will be stemmed in any reasonable amount of time.  Having a
> >> >> "works with noxhci_port_switch" report from users is good data (hmm, I
> >> >> think a printk to tell users to file a report upstream if the option
> >> >> resolves their issue is needed).
> >> >
> >> > How about just adding a debugfs file instead?  That way, once you fix
> >> > this, we can then remove it and no one will care.
> >>
> >> The only thing stopping me from saying "deal." is that this darn
> >> things is presently a pci quirk.  So it happens well before the user
> >> has a chance to manually override it with a debugfs file.
> >
> > Then have the debugfs file disconnect the device and reconnect it.
> 
> We also need to reload the ehci hcd driver since it needs to know its
> port count at load time as well.  Which is more violent and error
> prone than I think we want.

Why is that a problem?

> >> Let me look into delaying the quirk until the driver loads, because
> >> ideally the right interface for this is "blacklist xhci_hcd" in
> >> /etc/modprobe.conf.
> >
> > Which really doesn't work for systems / distros that build the driver
> > into the kernel.
> 
> True.  I'm back to a kernel command line option as the only viable way
> forward, but let me try to wordsmith the description to make clear
> when to use this workaround and the obligation to report upstream when
> this workaround works so we can queue up the fix for xhci.

No, I really don't want a command line option if at all possible as you
will have to support it for forever.

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-08 16:25 [PATCH 00/10] xhci: features for usb-next Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:25 ` [PATCH 01/10] xhci: fix wrong port number reported when setting USB2.0 hardware LPM Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:25 ` [PATCH 02/10] xhci: 'noxhci_port_switch' kernel parameter Mathias Nyman
2014-05-20  1:01   ` Greg KH
2014-05-20  9:47     ` Mathias Nyman
2014-05-20  9:51       ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-20 18:25         ` Dan Williams
2014-05-20 19:04           ` Takashi Iwai
2014-05-20 20:34           ` Greg KH
2014-05-20 22:40             ` Dan Williams
2014-05-21  0:27               ` Greg KH
2014-05-21  6:21                 ` Dan Williams
2014-05-21  6:31                   ` Greg KH
2014-05-21 17:29                     ` Dan Williams
2014-05-21 17:52                       ` Alan Stern
2014-05-21 21:59                       ` Greg KH [this message]
2014-05-24  6:39               ` Holger Hans Peter Freyther
2014-05-24 14:13                 ` Dan Williams
2014-07-11 10:08                   ` Holger Hans Peter Freyther
2014-05-08 16:25 ` [PATCH 03/10] usb: catch attempts to submit urbs with a vmalloc'd transfer buffer Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:21   ` Dan Williams
2014-05-12 15:01     ` Mathias Nyman
2014-05-20  0:58       ` Greg KH
2014-05-08 16:22   ` David Laight
2014-05-08 16:32     ` Dan Williams
2014-05-08 16:47   ` Joe Perches
2014-05-08 17:05     ` Dan Williams
2014-05-08 16:25 ` [PATCH 04/10] usb: xhci: Use IS_ENABLED() macro Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:25 ` [PATCH 05/10] xhci: Use pci_enable_msix_exact() instead of pci_enable_msix() Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:25 ` [PATCH 06/10] xhci: Report max device limit when Enable Slot command fails Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:26 ` [PATCH 07/10] xhci: Use command structures when queuing commands on the command ring Mathias Nyman
2014-06-05 22:16   ` Dan Williams
2014-06-06  8:14     ` Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:26 ` [PATCH 08/10] xhci: Add a global command queue Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:26 ` [PATCH 09/10] xhci: Use completion and status in " Mathias Nyman
2014-05-08 16:26 ` [PATCH 10/10] xhci: rework command timeout and cancellation, Mathias Nyman
2014-05-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 00/10] xhci: features for usb-next Mathias Nyman
2014-05-20  1:04 ` Greg KH

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