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From: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, shawn@churchofgit.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, avagin@openvz.org,
	xemul@parallels.com, vdavydov@parallels.com
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] timerfd: Implement write method
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 09:31:01 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140522053101.GJ12819@moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1405220826460.9695@ionos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 08:30:04AM +0900, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > 
> > > So what's the semantics of that write function? We really want to have
> > > that agreed on and documented in the man page.
> > 
> > The idea was to provide a way to setup @ticks into (nonzero) value
> > which we get from show_fdinfo output. Then when we restore it
> > we setup the timer and set @ticks to the value it had at dump
> > moment.
> 
> That's not describing the semantics. It's describing what you use it
> for.

That's I've been intending to use it for and as result the semantic
was to write unconditionally. But because I missed polling in first
place now I think such semantic is wrong and write() should be
a complete counterpart of read() method and wake up waiters.

> > > Right now the write will just update the ticks and nothing else. So
> > > what if there is a waiter already? What if there is a timer armed?
> > > 
> > > Can you please describe how checkpoint/restore is going to use all of
> > > this. How is the timer restored and how/when is the reader which was
> > > waiting in read/poll at the time of suspend reattached to it.
> > 
> > Thomas, I see what you mean. Need to think (I must admit I forgot about
> > polling of timerfds :( I were to restore timerfds like this
> > 
> >  - fetch data from fdinfo
> >  - use timer_create/settime to arm it
> >  - write @ticks then
> 
> That's clear to me.
> 
> So again you have to answer the questions:
> 
>    Do we just allow the write unconditionally?
>    Do we care about waking readers/pollers?
>  
> Whatever the answer is, it needs to be documented coherently in the
> changelog, in the code and in the man page.

"Yes" to both questions I think. Thomas I'll return with a new patchset,
testcase and man update.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-22  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-28 21:25 [patch 0/3] timerfd -- implement missing parts to checkpoint and restore timerfd state, v3 Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-04-28 21:25 ` [patch 1/3] timerfd: Implement show_fdinfo method Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-05-21 21:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-21 21:54     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-04-28 21:25 ` [patch 2/3] docs: procfs -- Document timerfd output Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-04-28 21:25 ` [patch 3/3] timerfd: Implement write method Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-05-21 21:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-21 21:57     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-05-21 22:12       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-21 22:35         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-05-21 23:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-22  5:31             ` Cyrill Gorcunov [this message]
2014-05-22  6:32           ` Michael Kerrisk
     [not found]             ` <CAHO5Pa3NFndwZUKGdEt8AYnYLXvd4aJB1RdWOQ-Kcht+Y0WEyA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-22  7:03               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-05-22  7:03                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
     [not found]   ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1405220643170.9695@ionos.tec.linutronix.de>
2014-05-21 21:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-10 16:35       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-06-10 20:03         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-10 20:03           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-10 20:05           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-10 20:22             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-06-11  7:27         ` Andrew Vagin
2014-06-11  7:51           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-06-11  9:09             ` Andrew Vagin
2014-06-11  9:52               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-06-11 12:43                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-05-21 10:03 ` [patch 0/3] timerfd -- implement missing parts to checkpoint and restore timerfd state, v3 Cyrill Gorcunov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-07 17:47 [patch 0/3] timerfd -- implement missing parts to checkpoint and restore timerfd state, v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2014-04-07 17:47 ` [patch 3/3] timerfd: Implement write method Cyrill Gorcunov

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