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From: "George Spelvin" <linux@horizon.com>
To: linux@horizon.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com
Cc: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, james.guilford@intel.com,
	JBeulich@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sandyw@twitter.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] crypto: crc32c-pclmul - Use pmovzxdq to shrink K_table
Date: 28 May 2014 19:01:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140528230147.3263.qmail@ns.horizon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401316379.2970.387.camel@schen9-DESK>

Thanks for the reply!

> Changing from the aligned move (movdqa) to unaligned move and zeroing
> (pmovzxdq), is going to make things slower.  If the table is aligned
> on 8 byte boundary, some of the table can span 2 cache lines, which
> can slow things further.

Um, two notes:
1) This load is performed once per 3072-byte block, which
   is a minimum of 128 cycles just for the crc32q instructions,
   never mind all the pcmulqdq folderol.

   Is it really more than 2 cycles?  Heck, is it *any* overall
   time given that it's preceded by a stretch of 384 instructions
   that it's not data-dependent on?

   I'll do some benchmarking to find out.

2) The shrunk table entries are 8 bytes long, and so can't
   span a cache line.  Is there any benefit to using a
   larger alignment, other than the very small issue of the
   full table needing 1 more cache line to be fully cached?
   
> We are trading speed for only 4096 bytes of memory save,
> which is likely not a good trade for most systems except for 
> those really constrained of memory.  For this kind of non-performance
> critical system, it may as well use the generic crc32c algorithm and
> compile out this module.

I hadn't intended to cause any speed penalty at all.
Do you really think there will be one?

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-28 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-28 14:40 [RFC PATCH] crypto: crc32c-pclmul - Use pmovzxdq to shrink K_table George Spelvin
2014-05-28 15:32 ` George Spelvin
2014-05-28 22:15   ` [PATCH v2] crypto: crc32c-pclmul - Shrink K_table to 32-bit words George Spelvin
2014-05-28 23:02     ` Tim Chen
2014-05-28 23:55       ` George Spelvin
2014-05-29  3:26       ` George Spelvin
2014-05-29 16:33         ` Tim Chen
2014-05-28 20:47 ` [RFC PATCH] crypto: crc32c-pclmul - Use pmovzxdq to shrink K_table Jan Beulich
2014-05-28 21:47   ` George Spelvin
2014-05-29  6:44     ` Jan Beulich
2014-05-28 22:32 ` Tim Chen
2014-05-28 23:01   ` George Spelvin [this message]
2014-05-28 23:28     ` Tim Chen
2014-05-29 23:54       ` George Spelvin
2014-05-30  1:07         ` Tim Chen
2014-05-30  1:16           ` Dave Jones
2014-05-30 17:56             ` Tim Chen
2014-05-30 18:45               ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-05-30 19:32                 ` Tim Chen
2014-05-30 19:38                   ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-05-30 20:07                     ` Tim Chen
2014-05-30 20:15                       ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-05-30  1:37           ` George Spelvin
2014-05-30  5:25             ` George Spelvin
2014-05-30 16:10               ` Tim Chen
2014-05-30 16:52                 ` George Spelvin
2014-05-30 17:01                   ` Tim Chen
2014-06-07  3:08                     ` [PATCH v3] crypto: crc32c-pclmul - Shrink K_table to 32-bit words George Spelvin
2014-06-20 18:42                       ` Herbert Xu

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