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From: Torsten Duwe <duwe@suse.de>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Satoru Takeuchi <satoru.takeuchi@gmail.com>,
	ingo.tuchscherer@de.ibm.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans-Georg Markgraf <MGRF@de.ibm.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v5.1 03/03]: hwrng: khwrngd derating per device
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:31:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140616073108.GA28232@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140615051146.GA2180@thunk.org>

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 01:11:46AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> OK, I've merged these changes into the random.git tree.
> 
> I had to make a few minor changes.
> 
> 1)  Changes so it would compile on 3.15.  (random_write_wakeup_thresh
> got renamed to random_write_wakeup_bits).  I'm guessing the patch was
> massaged so that it would apply, but it was never compile tested.

I'm keeping and updating 2 versions, one -current (more or less)
and one for 3.12. I probably missed that when making the discussion changes
back and forth, sorry.

> 2)  Fixed a bug in patch #2 so that it would work correctly if the rng
> driver doesn't have an init function (which happens to be the case for
> the tpm-rng driver, which I used for my testing).

The whole thing stems from entropy-challenged s390. 3.12 on s390 compiles
and runs fine. Yields a solid 200 kB/s

TPM RNG is a crook ;-)

> There are also a few minor rough edges that I've noted, but not yet
> fixed.  The main one is that if you've compiled the hw_random's
> rng_core into the kernel, changes to
> /sys/modules/rng_core/parameters/* won't actually cause the hwrngd
> kerenl thread to get started.  You have to set the parameters before
> you load the rng module in order for them to be activated.  And if
> you've compiled the rng module into the kernel, that trick won't work.

With patch 03/03, it is up to the driver author to specify an entropy
quality, which can be overridden at boot time, or when loading
the module, respectively. This should be a constant hardware property.
It would be nice to change it at runtime; but frankly I hope that this
won't be neccessary.

> Fixing this probably means that we need to set up a formal sysfs tree
> under /sys/kernel/hw_random.

Maybe along with more sophisticated steering of how many bits to pick
from which source, if multiple are available.

Thanks,

	Torsten


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-21 14:29 [PATCH v2 00/03]: khwrngd Torsten Duwe
2014-03-21 14:32 ` [Patch v2 01/03]: provide an injection point for pure hardware randomness Torsten Duwe
2014-03-21 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 02/03]: hwrng: create filler thread Torsten Duwe
2014-03-27  0:50   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-27  1:03     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-27  1:11       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-27  1:55         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-27  4:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-27 15:03           ` Torsten Duwe
2014-03-27 16:06           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-27 14:54       ` Torsten Duwe
2014-03-27 15:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-14 16:02       ` [PATCH v3 00/03]: hwrng: an in-kernel rngd Torsten Duwe
2014-04-14 16:04         ` [PATCH v3 01/03]: hwrng: provide an injection point for pure hardware randomness Torsten Duwe
2014-04-14 16:05         ` [PATCH v3 02/03]: hwrng: create filler thread Torsten Duwe
2014-04-14 16:06         ` [PATCH v3 03/03]: hwrng: khwrngd derating per device Torsten Duwe
2014-04-14 16:41           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15  8:51             ` Torsten Duwe
2014-04-15 16:53               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-27 13:41                 ` [PATCH v5 00/03]: hwrng: an in-kernel rngd Torsten Duwe
2014-05-27 13:44                   ` [Patch 01/03]: provide an injection point for pure hardware randomness Torsten Duwe
2014-05-27 13:45                   ` [Patch v5 02/03]: hwrng: create filler thread Torsten Duwe
2014-05-27 13:46                   ` [Patch v5 03/03]: hwrng: khwrngd derating per device Torsten Duwe
2014-05-27 14:11                     ` [Patch v5.1 " Torsten Duwe
2014-06-12  1:24                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-12 10:09                         ` Torsten Duwe
2014-06-14  2:40                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14  2:44                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15  5:11                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-16  7:31                                 ` Torsten Duwe [this message]
2014-06-16 11:22                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-16 14:07                                     ` Torsten Duwe
2014-06-16 14:40                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                     ` <20140616141444.GB1744@suse.de>
     [not found]                                       ` <20140616142812.GB19387@thunk.org>
2014-07-11 13:43                                         ` Ingo Tuchscherer
2014-07-11 14:42                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-14 16:09         ` [PATCH v3 00/03]: hwrng: an in-kernel rngd H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-14 16:24           ` Torsten Duwe
2014-04-14 16:29             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-14 16:43             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-14 16:27           ` [PATCH v4 03/03]: hwrng: khwrngd derating per device Torsten Duwe
2014-03-21 14:34 ` [PATCH v2 " Torsten Duwe

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