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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	ak@linux.intel.com, cl@gentwo.org, umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu] Reduce overhead of cond_resched() checks for RCU
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:33:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140623133341.GA4603@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140623062615.GB19860@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 08:26:15AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 07:59:58PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Commit ac1bea85781e (Make cond_resched() report RCU quiescent states)
> > fixed a problem where a CPU looping in the kernel with but one runnable
> > task would give RCU CPU stall warnings, even if the in-kernel loop
> > contained cond_resched() calls.  Unfortunately, in so doing, it introduced
> > performance regressions in Anton Blanchard's will-it-scale "open1" test.
> > The problem appears to be not so much the increased cond_resched() path
> > length as an increase in the rate at which grace periods complete, which
> > increased per-update grace-period overhead.
> > 
> > This commit takes a different approach to fixing this bug, mainly by
> > moving the RCU-visible quiescent state from cond_resched() to
> > rcu_note_context_switch(), and by further reducing the check to a
> > simple non-zero test of a single per-CPU variable.  However, this
> > approach requires that the force-quiescent-state processing send
> > resched IPIs to the offending CPUs.  These will be sent only once
> > the grace period has reached an age specified by the boot/sysfs
> > parameter rcutree.jiffies_till_sched_qs, or once the grace period
> > reaches an age halfway to the point at which RCU CPU stall warnings
> > will be emitted, whichever comes first.
> 
> Right, and I suppose the force quiescent stuff is triggered from the
> tick, which in turn wakes some of these rcu kthreads, which on UP would
> cause scheduling themselves.

Yep, which is another reason why this commit only affects TREE_RCU and
TREE_PREEMPT_RCU, not TINY_RCU.

> On the topic of these threads; I recently noticed RCU grew a metric ton
> of them, I found some 75 rcu kthreads on my box, wth up with that?

The most likely cause of a recent increase would be if you now have
CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL=y, which would give you a pair of kthreads per
CPU for callback offloading.  Plus an additional kthread per CPU (for
a total of three new kthreads per CPU) for CONFIG_PREEMPT=y.  These would
be the rcuo kthreads.

Are they causing you trouble?

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-23 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-21  2:59 [PATCH tip/core/rcu] Reduce overhead of cond_resched() checks for RCU Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-21  4:29 ` Josh Triplett
2014-06-21  6:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23 13:53     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-23 15:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23  6:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 13:33   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-06-23 13:51   ` Christoph Lameter
2014-06-23 16:45     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23 15:49   ` Andi Kleen
2014-06-23 16:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23 17:19       ` Andi Kleen
2014-06-23 17:42         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23 16:55 ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-23 17:16   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23 17:34     ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-23 17:17   ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-23 18:09     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-23 23:30       ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-24  0:15         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-24  0:20           ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-24  0:39             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-24 16:18               ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-24 20:43               ` Dave Hansen
2014-06-24 21:15                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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