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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: bsegall@google.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, len.brown@intel.com,
	alan.cox@intel.com, mark.gross@intel.com, pjt@google.com,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:52:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140711005201.GD12984@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140711084709.GF20603@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:47:09AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 07:22:07AM +0800, Yuyang Du wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:08:59PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > 
> > > Since clock_task is the regular clock minus some local amount, the
> > > difference between two regular clock reads is always a strict upper
> > > bound on clock_task differences.
> > > 
> > This is inspiring. Regarding the clock source in load avg tracking,
> > should we simply use rq_clock_task instead of cfs_rq_clock_task.
> 
> Oh *groan* I forgot about that thing. But no, it obviously doesn't
> matter for running time, because if you're throttled you're nor running
> and therefore it all doesn't matter, but it can make a huge difference
> for blocked time accounting I suppose.
> 
> > For the bandwidth control case, just update/increase the last_update_time when
> > unthrottled by this throttled time, so the time would look like freezed. Am I
> > understanding right?
> 
> Yes, it stops the clock when throttled.
> 
> > Not sure how much bandwidth control is used, but even not used, every time
> > we read cfs_rq_clock_task, will burn useless cycles here.
> 
> Yep, nothing much you can do about that.
> 
> In any case, it is still the case that a normal clock difference is an
> upper bound.

I meant, not for this migrating case. But completely don't use cfs_rq_clock_task
in the entire load avg tracking (and specially compensate the throttle case). No?

Thanks,
Yuyang

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-11  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-02  2:30 [PATCH 1/2] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-02  2:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-07 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 10:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 20:03     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-07 22:25     ` bsegall
2014-07-08  0:08       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-08 17:04         ` bsegall
2014-07-09  1:07           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-09 17:08             ` bsegall
2014-07-09 18:39               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-09 18:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 19:07               ` bsegall
2014-07-10 10:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10 17:01                   ` bsegall
2014-07-10 19:53                     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-10 23:22                   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-11  8:47                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-11  0:52                       ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2014-07-11  2:01                         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-09 23:30               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-10 17:06                 ` bsegall
2014-07-10 20:08                   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-08 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra

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