From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Yan, Zheng" <zheng.z.yan@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
acme@infradead.org, eranian@google.com, andi@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] perf, x86: large PEBS interrupt threshold
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:41:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140715104139.GA9918@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405414739-31455-5-git-send-email-zheng.z.yan@intel.com>
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 04:58:56PM +0800, Yan, Zheng wrote:
> PEBS always had the capability to log samples to its buffers without
> an interrupt. Traditionally perf has not used this but always set the
> PEBS threshold to one.
>
> For frequently occuring events (like cycles or branches or load/stores)
> this in term requires using a relatively high sampling period to avoid
> overloading the system, by only processing PMIs. This in term increases
> sampling error.
>
> For the common cases we still need to use the PMI because the PEBS
> hardware has various limitations. The biggest one is that it can not
> supply a callgraph. It also requires setting a fixed period, as the
> hardware does not support adaptive period. Another issue is that it
> cannot supply a time stamp and some other options. To supply a TID it
> requires flushing on context switch. It can however supply the IP, the
> load/store address, TSX information, registers, and some other things.
>
> So we can make PEBS work for some specific cases, basically as long as
> you can do without a callgraph and can set the period you can use this
> new PEBS mode.
>
> The main benefit is the ability to support much lower sampling period
> (down to -c 1000) without extensive overhead.
>
> One use cases is for example to increase the resolution of the c2c tool.
> Another is double checking when you suspect the standard sampling has
> too much sampling error.
>
> Some numbers on the overhead, using cycle soak, comparing
> "perf record --no-time -e cycles:p -c" to "perf record -e cycles:p -c"
>
> period plain multi delta
> 10003 15 5 10
> 20003 15.7 4 11.7
> 40003 8.7 2.5 6.2
> 80003 4.1 1.4 2.7
> 100003 3.6 1.2 2.4
> 800003 4.4 1.4 3
> 1000003 0.6 0.4 0.2
> 2000003 0.4 0.3 0.1
> 4000003 0.3 0.2 0.1
> 10000003 0.3 0.2 0.1
>
> The interesting part is the delta between multi-pebs and normal pebs. Above
> -c 1000003 it does not really matter because the basic overhead is so low.
> With periods below 80003 it becomes interesting.
>
> Note in some other workloads (e.g. kernbench) the smaller sampling periods
> cause much more overhead without multi-pebs, upto 80% (and throttling) have
> been observed with -c 10003. multi pebs generally does not throttle.
>
And not a single word on the multiplex horror we talked about. That
should be mentioned, in detail.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-15 10:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-15 8:58 [PATCH v2 0/7] perf, x86: large PEBS interrupt threshold Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] perf, core: introduce pmu context switch callback Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 11:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] perf, x86: use context switch callback to flush LBR stack Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] perf, x86: use the PEBS auto reload mechanism when possible Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] perf, x86: large PEBS interrupt threshold Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-07-15 11:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] perf, x86: drain PEBS buffer during context switch Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] perf, x86: enable large PEBS interrupt threshold for SNB/IVB/HSW Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 11:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15 8:58 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] tools, perf: Allow the user to disable time stamps Yan, Zheng
2014-07-15 10:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] perf, x86: large PEBS interrupt threshold Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-16 1:12 ` Yan, Zheng
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