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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	jhladky@redhat.com, ktkhai@parallels.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched: fix and clean up calculate_imbalance
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:49:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140729154956.GJ3935@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53D7BAA5.8080404@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:15:49AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:

> > Right, so we want that code for overloaded -> overloaded migrations
> > such as not to cause idle cpus in an attempt to balance things.
> > Idle cpus are worse than imbalance.
> > 
> > But in case of overloaded/imb -> !overloaded migrations we can
> > allow it, and in fact want to allow it in order to balance idle
> > cpus.
> 
> In case the destination is over the average load, or the source is under
> the average load, fix_small_imbalance() determines env->imbalance.
> 
> The "load_above_capacity" calculation is only reached when busiest is
> busier than average, and the destination is under the average load.
> In that case, env->imbalance ends up as the minimum of busiest - avg
> and avg - target.
> 
> Is there any case where limiting it further to "load - capacity" from
> the busiest domain makes a difference?

sadly yes; suppose 8 cpus in 2 groups and 9 tasks, 8 tasks of weight 10,
1 of 1024. The local group will have 5 tasks of 10, the busiest will
have the remaining 4.

The sd avg is 138, local avg is 12, busiest avg is 263.

This gives: busiest-avg = 122, avg - local = 110

So an imbalance of 110.

Without limiting it further, we would migrate all 3 10 tasks over to
local and run 3 cpus idle.

Now running all 8 10 tasks on a single cpu and the 1 1024 task on
another and keeping 6 cpus idle is the 'fairest' solution, but that's
not the only goal, we also try and be work-conserving, iow. keep as many
cpus busy as possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-29 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-28 18:16 [PATCH 0/2] load balancing fixes riel
2014-07-28 18:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched: fix and clean up calculate_imbalance riel
2014-07-29  9:04   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29 14:53     ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-29 15:31       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29 15:39         ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-29 14:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:15       ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-29 15:49         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-07-29 17:04           ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-29 15:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30  9:32         ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-30 10:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-12 14:52         ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Allow calculate_imbalance() to move idle cpus tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 14:49   ` [PATCH 1/2] sched: fix and clean up calculate_imbalance Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 14:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-12 14:52         ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make calculate_imbalance() independent tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 18:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: make update_sd_pick_busiest return true on a busier sd riel
2014-07-29 15:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-12 14:52     ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make update_sd_pick_busiest() return 'true' " tip-bot for Rik van Riel

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