From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752013AbaHMJyU (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 05:54:20 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:46305 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750803AbaHMJyT (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 05:54:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:54:02 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Martin Steigerwald Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= , Steven Rostedt , Christopher Barry , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OT: Open letter to the Linux World Message-ID: <20140813095402.GH9918@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20140812153812.2923046a@monolith.infinux.org> <20140813082756.GB2923@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <2838655.H5W5zNkR37@merkaba> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dJMCvz8ywNNMqcIT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2838655.H5W5zNkR37@merkaba> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --dJMCvz8ywNNMqcIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:37:28AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >=20 > Also I think: >=20 > martin@merkaba:~> ls -l /sbin/init > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40648 Aug 3 21:01 /sbin/init > martin@merkaba:~> ls -l /bin/systemd > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Aug 6 13:41 /bin/systemd -> /lib/systemd/syste= md > martin@merkaba:~> ls -l /lib/systemd/systemd > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1084816 Aug 6 13:42 /lib/systemd/systemd >=20 > martin@merkaba:~> apt list 2>&1 | egrep "(^systemd/|sysvinit-core)" > systemd/unstable,now 208-7 amd64 [installed] > sysvinit-core/unstable,now 2.88dsf-53.3 amd64 [installed,automatic] >=20 > is highly worrying. A one MiB binary as PID 1? Really? Yeah, utterly insane. PID 1 should not be doing these things; no single process should do as much as systemd does, PID 1 least of all. --dJMCvz8ywNNMqcIT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6zW6AAoJEHZH4aRLwOS6JcwP/0xJAMXHHT49quzhc4xoi1WR smKD9yBZkQSUr0JFuhifYzpZB/wQf3VE3JjjOgNLVxSYX2IyzP9GGUfhQt2yvC0u EVMgF8Y2D6ICCXsicLer/QGlzMzULr4KeldhuhOYvmeMfqSW+6R4ZAxetsRE0Gmy K1+O6rbbE7/j7AiDCAL4QommdRCr/+SZf4Mr1dx/ZcTo1NvPXe5nic1BVrnH1Q9R GdMWK3X3RYVgkIqnuYm4sK6yqpk2snHmMVRY4d5AeomeaOM7Z7XtCjLsCqYzPM9R aOy17aSgQy5MJdxT4G21tVkZOtxCg9H1tW3L+1tVk7VRUZd0t9O2uutD17drVc+3 KdoaXtFgbJdf38NoVsvvYxAZ+o+ppuKS/yXCMZGGkTlLzYGMBHwD53CHHIjoXU2B 6c0/wtppe3xZvhFTmI22zsd3Vj//WIRU5CDiHI59eCtUg2LG3s7xhKESg9yw6LbP MZQ0gYX3zlq0GydHsxqwpNh1wRt+8OO4K0u0sls+uyB30yF6pjlYIlGqMX8iKbO9 rrjSGNV3F5YIM7Lpe/4CprQ0FPhHPhr4DLJ6imJ2u9vi04yHFdetOIHfXFgAWmvL Q24YNvs6g+Q+diy13mawvYq+PihRnY2JwroGMN/2/FDwjUDFnoXgnltjPuXQ+BGG 2lva9osfxbGhtvn3FesR =KjrH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dJMCvz8ywNNMqcIT--