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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sanjay Rao <srao@redhat.com>, Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:53:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140814135318.GA26891@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFTL4hwvPobNwm39qzLdP1mPLya7Wg-bLQnWn-Bt5mSV_i3QsA@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/14, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> 2014-08-14 15:22 GMT+02:00 Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>:
> > On 08/13, Rik van Riel wrote:
> >>
> >> @@ -646,6 +646,7 @@ struct signal_struct {
> >>        * Live threads maintain their own counters and add to these
> >>        * in __exit_signal, except for the group leader.
> >>        */
> >> +     seqlock_t stats_lock;
> >
> > Ah. Somehow I thought that you were going to use seqcount_t and fallback
> > to taking ->siglock if seqcount_retry, but this patch adds the "full blown"
> > seqlock_t.
> >
> > OK, I won't argue, this can make the seqbegin_or_lock simpler...
>
> Is this really needed? seqlock are useful when we have concurrent
> updaters. But updaters of thread stats should be under the thread lock
> already, right? If we have only one updater at a time, seqcount should
> be enough.

Yes, this is what I meant. Although I can see 2 reasons to use seqlock_t:

	1. It can simplify the seqbegin-or-lock logic. If nothing else,
	   you simply can't use read_seqbegin_or_lock() to take ->siglock.
	   But this is just syntactic sugar.

	2. If we use ->siglock in fallback path, we need to verify that
	   thread_group_cputime() is never called with ->siglock held first.

	   Or, we need a fat comment to explain that need_seqrtry == T is not
	   possible if it is called under ->siglock, and thus "fallback to
	   lock_task_sighand" must be always safe. But in this case we need
	   to ensure that the caller didn't do write_seqcount_begin().

So perhaps seqlock_t makes more sense at least initially...

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-14 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-12 18:25 [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-12 19:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-12 19:22   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-12 22:27   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:22     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 17:35       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 18:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 18:25           ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 18:45             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 18:57               ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 21:03               ` [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock Rik van Riel
2014-08-14  0:43                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14  1:57                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 13:34                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 14:39                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15  2:52                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-15 14:26                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 22:33                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 13:22                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 13:38                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-14 13:53                     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-08-14 17:48                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 18:34                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15  5:19                     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-15  6:28                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-15  9:37                         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-15  9:44                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-15 16:36                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 16:49                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15 17:25                             ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-15 18:36                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 14:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 15:37                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 16:12                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 17:36                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 18:15                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-14 19:03                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-14 19:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-15  2:14                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-15 14:58                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-13 21:03               ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:40       ` [PATCH RFC] time: drop do_sys_times spinlock Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 17:50         ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 17:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  6:59   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-13 11:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 13:24       ` Rik van Riel
2014-08-13 13:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13 14:09           ` Mike Galbraith

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