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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>,
	"aik@au1.ibm.com" <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	Aravinda Prasad <aravinda@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 1/5] target-ppc: Extend rtas-blob
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:46:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140829034635.GD1930@voom.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B45736D7-FBB9-4036-A629-7FFC6CFBD6B4@suse.de>

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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 03:33:59AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> 
> > Am 29.08.2014 um 03:06 schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>:
> > 
> >> On Fri, 2014-08-29 at 02:40 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 29.08.14 00:25, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 2014-08-29 at 00:18 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>>> I strongly disagree with David. Legally there is no difference between a
> >>>> .bin file that contains code and an array made of instructions. And the
> >>>> more target code we can keep outside of QEMU the better.
> >>> 
> >>> Ugh ... having a separate file with it's own build system etc... for 5
> >>> instructions is borderline ridiculous too :-)
> >> 
> >> Then don't use it - nobody's forcing you to do so :). Just use the
> >> provided binary. I fail to see the difference between
> >> 
> >>  uint32_t rtas_blob[] = { INST_SC1, INST_BLR };
> >> 
> >> and
> >> 
> >>  uint32_t *rtas_blob;
> >>  load_file_from_disk(rtas_blob);
> >> 
> >> except that we're using an actual assembler ;).
> > 
> > So you fail to see the difference with an array of 5 words vs. running
> > through thousands of instructions & syscall to read those same 5 words
> > from disk ? :-)
> 
> I fail to see a problem, yeah :). Imagine the same thing on x86 with
> its completely messed up instruction set. Would you still advocate
> for in-qemu code or would you prefer to have a compiler between you
> and the ugly opcodes?

If it was only 20 bytes worth, and by it's nature unlikely to need
changing, then, yes, I would, even with the extra x86 ugliness.
Assuming it was well commented, obviously.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-29  4:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-25 13:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] target-ppc: Add FWNMI support in QEMU for powerKVM guests Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] target-ppc: Extend rtas-blob Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26  5:38   ` David Gibson
2014-08-26  6:34     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26  7:24       ` David Gibson
2014-08-28 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 18:20     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 22:18       ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 22:25         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-29  0:40           ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-29  1:06             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-29  1:33               ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-29  2:42                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-29  3:46                 ` David Gibson [this message]
2014-08-29  3:47         ` David Gibson
2014-09-01  7:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-01 11:23     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02  4:09       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02  5:25         ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02  5:49           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02  5:56             ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02  6:34               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02  7:07                 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02  8:40                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02  9:30                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02 13:17                       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] target-ppc: Register and handle HCALL to receive updated RTAS region Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26  5:39   ` David Gibson
2014-08-26  6:15     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-26  7:24       ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 20:05         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] target-ppc: Build error log Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26  5:47   ` David Gibson
2014-08-26  6:40     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-27  9:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28  6:12     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28  8:36       ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 10:21         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-28 10:29           ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 10:33             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-28 10:34               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-28 17:17               ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 20:07                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-30  8:06                   ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] target-ppc: Handle ibm, nmi-register RTAS call Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26  6:02   ` David Gibson
2014-08-26  6:57     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-27 10:37   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28  6:38     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28  8:37       ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 13:06         ` Tom Musta
2014-08-28 13:11           ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 17:42         ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 22:16           ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-30  8:08             ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-04  8:25             ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-04 13:09               ` Alexander Graf
2014-09-04 13:49                 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-05  8:46                   ` Alexander Graf
2014-09-05  8:52                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-07 20:47   ` Alexander Graf
2014-09-26  3:58     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-10-06  6:32     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-10-06  9:40       ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-06 11:01         ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] target-ppc: Handle cases when multi-processors get machine-check Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26  6:04   ` David Gibson
2014-08-26  7:04     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-27 10:40   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28  6:56     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28  8:39       ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28  8:42       ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 17:45         ` Aravinda Prasad

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