From: Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Joakim Tjernlund <joakim.tjernlund@transmode.se>,
Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi>,
Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] linux-user: enabling binfmt P flag
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:51:15 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140901095115.GA31799@afflict.kos.to> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-Lb-5rj32d6F1f5zFWBnCKisWwVMbQYkNXf+BFALw2hg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 10:12:18AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 1 September 2014 09:51, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Il 29/08/2014 20:01, Peter Maydell ha scritto:
> >> [cc'ing MJT for more distro opinion since I think fundamentally
> >> the choice we ought to make upstream is "what's not going to
> >> screw over distros"... Paolo, is there a RedHat QEMU maintainer
> >> who would have an opinion here?]
> >
> > There's Cole Robinson.
> >
> > BTW, Fedora doesn't use the binfmt scripts from QEMU
>
> That's ok, nobody with any sense doesn't.
>
> >, but does reuse the
> > binfmt lines. We'd just add Ps and we'd be fine.
>
> But this would break all your existing users' existing
> chroot setups. That's the question I'm after an answer to:
> what do you (as a distro) think would be acceptable as
> transitional breakage, if anything?
>
> > However, the problem is not really for distros. Packagers just read the
> > release notes and adjust whatever needs to be adjusted. The problem is
> > for people who compile from source and are bit by conflicting binfmt
> > formats from their distro.
Or people with chroots from older/different distros, already
having a qemu-static inside.
> This is one reason I like the "one binary name for O and
> one for P" approach.
Maybe the new binary name could be something more generic than qemu-x-binfmt.
Say qemu-x-user. Then distributions and users can drop the old binary
name over time, and we are back to one binary again eventually.
> > The solution could be to extend binfmt_misc so that it sets two
> > environment variables BINFMT_MISC_PID and BINFMT_MISC_ORIG_ARGV0. The
> > former is set to the pid of the binfmt "interpreter" program, the latter
> > to the argv[0] value. Then QEMU can check if BINFMT_MISC_PID matches
> > getpid() and, if so, trust the BINFMT_MISC_ORIG_ARGV0 value.
> Certainly if we're in a position to get the kernel to be more
> informative about how it invoked us that would be the ideal.
There is AT_FLAGS, that seems unused atm (only ever set to 0).
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/fs/binfmt_elf.c#L240
As indeed I afree with Paolo that (in hindsight) it was misdesign for the
kernel to tell the application how it invoked us..
Riku
Riku
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-01 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-25 9:09 [Qemu-devel] linux-user: enabling binfmt P flag Riku Voipio
2014-08-25 9:14 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-25 11:10 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2014-08-25 12:42 ` Riku Voipio
2014-08-25 12:46 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-25 13:18 ` Riku Voipio
2014-08-25 13:20 ` Laurent Vivier
2014-08-25 13:39 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2014-08-25 13:55 ` Riku Voipio
2014-08-25 14:30 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2014-08-25 14:49 ` Riku Voipio
2014-08-25 15:02 ` Joakim Tjernlund
[not found] ` <OF93B0417A.866825C3-ONC1257D3F.005235F4-C1257D3F.0052A534@LocalDomain>
2014-08-28 16:06 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2014-08-29 18:01 ` Peter Maydell
2014-08-30 8:28 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2014-09-01 8:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-01 9:12 ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-01 9:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-01 9:32 ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-01 9:51 ` Riku Voipio [this message]
2014-09-17 15:34 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2014-09-17 16:12 ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-17 19:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-17 19:31 ` Peter Maydell
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