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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com,
	<""@rjwysocki.net>,
	tianyu.lan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] Eliminate deadlock between CPU hotplug and expedited grace periods
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 13:20:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140901112059.GG27892@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140828194745.GA3761@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:47:45PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> Currently, the expedited grace-period primitives do get_online_cpus().
> This greatly simplifies their implementation, but means that calls to
> them holding locks that are acquired by CPU-hotplug notifiers (to say
> nothing of calls to these primitives from CPU-hotplug notifiers) can
> deadlock.  But this is starting to become inconvenient:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/5/754

Please recap the actual problem; the link might die and the actual mail
linked to isn't very useful in any case.

> This commit avoids the deadlock and retains the simplicity by creating
> a try_get_online_cpus(), which returns false if the get_online_cpus()
> reference count could not immediately be incremented.  If a call to
> try_get_online_cpus() returns true, the expedited primitives operate
> as before.  If a call returns false, the expedited primitives fall back
> to normal grace-period operations.  This falling back of course results
> in increased grace-period latency, but only during times when CPU
> hotplug operations are actually in flight.  The effect should therefore
> be negligible during normal operation.

URGH.. I really hate that. The hotplug interface is already too
horrible, we should not add such hacks to it.

How about ripping that rcu_expedited stuff out instead? That's all
conditional anyhow, so might as well not do it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-01 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-28 19:47 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] Eliminate deadlock between CPU hotplug and expedited grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-29  6:54 ` Lan Tianyu
2014-08-29 13:11   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-01 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-09-01 16:05   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-01 16:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02 16:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-03 11:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 15:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-03 15:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 16:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-17  7:11 ` Lan Tianyu
2014-09-17 13:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-18  7:15     ` Lan Tianyu
2014-09-18 12:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-18 22:55         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-18 22:57           ` Paul E. McKenney

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