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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Kautuk Consul <consul.kautuk@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Ionut Alexa <ionut.m.alexa@gmail.com>,
	Guillaume Morin <guillaume@morinfr.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] do_exit(): Solve possibility of BUG() due to race with try_to_wake_up()
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 07:04:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140904050424.GA26756@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140903144450.GB7083@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> > Ah, I simply do not know what is cheaper, even on x86. Well, 
> > we need to enable/disable irqs, but again I do not really 
> > know how much does this cost.
> 
> Ah good point about that IRQ thing, yes that's horribly 
> expensive.

Enabling/disabling local IRQs is not really expensive (it's a 
flat cost essentially - below 10 cycles on modern x86 CPUs) - 
especially if we consider the 100x-1000x frequency difference 
between schedule() and exit(), on typical systems:

  $ grep -E 'ctxt|processes' /proc/stat 
  ctxt 47166536
  processes 91876

And that's from a system that emphatically does not schedule 
much. On others the difference is much larger.

So please don't push complexity into the scheduler from 
lower-freq areas of the kernel!

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-04  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-25 10:54 [PATCH 1/1] do_exit(): Solve possibility of BUG() due to race with try_to_wake_up() Kautuk Consul
2014-08-25 15:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-26  4:45   ` Kautuk Consul
2014-08-26 15:03     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-01 15:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 17:58     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-01 19:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-02 15:52         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-02 16:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-02 17:39             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 13:36               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-03 14:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 15:18                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-04  7:15                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-04 17:03                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-04  5:04                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2014-09-04  6:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-03 16:08             ` task_numa_fault() && TASK_DEAD Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-03 16:33               ` Rik van Riel
2014-09-04  7:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-04 10:39                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-04 19:14                   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-09-05 11:35                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-03  9:04   ` [PATCH 1/1] do_exit(): Solve possibility of BUG() due to race with try_to_wake_up() Kirill Tkhai
2014-09-03  9:45     ` Peter Zijlstra

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