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From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert.lkml@gmail.com>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: x86, microcode: BUG: microcode update that changes x86_capability
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:37:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140919083708.29c3b6ec@as> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+5PVA7HTU_N0U5xxeGi3DJ_HCz9VjUfNsO23wJDT74J5xxLcQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:14:50 -0400
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert.lkml@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:29:53 +0200
> > Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:00:15AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> >> > We're also killing microcode update support outside of the initramfs in
> >> > Debian.  It has become obvious that anything other than the early initramfs
> >> > method of microcode updates should be considered a developer thing.
> >>
> >> That's simply not true: long-running systems which you can't reboot for
> >> whatever reason will need the late microcode update.
> >>
> >
> > Assuming we can identify all the affected models and steppings, maybe
> > something like this would work:
> >
> > 1) Refuse to finish booting if a microcode update that disables TSX
> > isn't applied before userspace starts running on those CPUs.
> 
> How would you accomplish that when applying a microcode update
> requires userspace?  Or did you mean "before we transition out of the
> initramfs"?
> 

I guess I meant requiring the update be done with the early microcode
method.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 13:52 x86, microcode: BUG: microcode update that changes x86_capability Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-18 19:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-18 19:53   ` Chuck Ebbert
2014-09-18 19:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-18 20:06       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19  0:13         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19  0:23           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19  0:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-19  1:00               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19  8:03                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-19 11:00             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19 11:29               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-19 12:54                 ` Chuck Ebbert
2014-09-19 13:14                   ` Josh Boyer
2014-09-19 13:37                     ` Chuck Ebbert [this message]
2014-09-19 15:00                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-19 16:13                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-19 16:54                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19 16:42                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-23 20:00                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-24 14:56                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-24 15:00                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-24 17:45                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-24 17:48                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-24 18:59                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-24 19:34                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-25  8:57                               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25  8:51                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25 11:36                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-25 12:10                               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25 14:40                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-25 14:56                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25 15:30                                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-25 15:50                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25 16:41                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-25 16:57                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25 17:09                                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19 13:51                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19 14:49                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-19 17:22                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19 22:35               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-29 11:51                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19  9:56     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-19 16:11   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2014-09-22  0:37 ` Andi Kleen
2014-09-22  0:51   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-09-22  0:58     ` Andi Kleen

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