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From: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	David Scott <dave.scott@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 28/28] Separate runtime debug output from debug symbols
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:17:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140926081735.GA26733@aepfle.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5424587E02000078000391F1@mail.emea.novell.com>

On Thu, Sep 25, Jan Beulich wrote:

> I'm having mixed feelings with this: On one hand it's nice to control
> this on the command line. Otoh, since you don't force a full rebuild
> when the setting changes between (incremental) builds, I'm not
> certain a proper binary will result (or the build even succeed). Yes,
> that's already a problem for the hypervisor build without this patch
> (and I think such settings should only be passed through .config,
> which should never be changed after an initial build), but extending
> this doesn't necessarily seem like the right route.

After spending some more time on this it looks my change regarding tools
and stubdom can be done in a different way. Initially I was thinking
that "var ?= val" will override "var := val", but its exactly the
opposite.

So for xen builds the patch will not change much except that it
separates runtime debug from debug symbols. For the tools+stubdom side I
suggest to have to knobs: --enable-debug for runtime debug like it is
done today, and a new --enable-debug-info or --enable-debug_symbols
which controls just the "-g" flag.

Any objections to that approach?


Regarding the rebuild if the compile environment changes: I'm in favour
of that. Just recently I upgraded from SLE11 to SLE12 and I had to
cleanup first before running make again. Maybe there is a way that
everything depends on some header (or knob) which contains CFLAGS,
LDFLAGS, the toolchain path and other build related things. If some of
that changes, force a rebuild.


Olaf

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-25 15:19 [PATCH 00/28 v4] tool changes to honor configure --prefix=DIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:19 ` [PATCH 01/28] Neutralize make uninstall Olaf Hering
2014-09-29 13:48   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-30 12:07     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 12:26       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-29 13:49   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-30 12:09     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 12:26       ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-01  5:52       ` Olaf Hering
2014-10-01 10:44         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:19 ` [PATCH 02/28] tools/hotplug: fix race during xen.conf creation Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:46   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:19 ` [PATCH 03/28] tools/python: use also LDFLAGS for build Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:46   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:19 ` [PATCH 04/28] Add configure --with-initddir=DIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:47   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 05/28] tools/hotplug: use XEN_SCRIPT_DIR instead of hardcoded path Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 06/28] tools/configure.ac: sort AC_CONFIG_FILES Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 07/28] tools: use INITD_DIR instead of CONFIG_DIR/init.d|rc.d Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:06   ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 08/28] tools/hotplug: substitute XEN_SCRIPT_DIR on FreeBSD Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:06   ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 09/28] remove duplicate variables from config Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:11   ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-09-30 16:30     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 10/28] Substitue configure variables in Paths.mk.in Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:48   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 11/28] tools: substitute bindir instead of BINDIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:51   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-30 15:55     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:04       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 12/28] Use configure --mandir=DIR to set MANDIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:51   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 13/28] Use configure --docdir=DIR to set DOCDIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:52   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 14/28] Use configure --includedir=DIR to set INCLUDEDIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:52   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 15/28] Use configure --libexecdir=BASEDIR to set LIBEXEC Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:55   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-30 15:58     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:02       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 16/28] Use configure --prefix=DIR to set PREFIX Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 17/28] Use configure --localstatedir=BASEDIR to set path to /var Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:55   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 18/28] Add configure --enable-rpath Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:56   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 19/28] Add configure --with-linux-backend-modules="mod1 mod2" Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:57   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 20/28] Put bash_completion.d below --sysconfdir=DIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:58   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-30 16:01     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 21/28] Add configure --with-sysconfig-leaf-dir=SUBDIR to set CONFIG_LEAF_DIR Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 15:59   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 22/28] Make XENFIRMWAREDIR a subdir of libexecdir Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 23/28] tools: remove private copies of includedir and libdir from libxenstat Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 24/28] Use Paths.mk for docs, stubdom and tools build Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:00   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 25/28] tools: use XEN_LIB_STORED instead of /var/lib/xenstored Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 26/28] Use XEN_RUN_DIR instead of /var/run/xen Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:00   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 27/28] move vtpmmgr helpers from tools to stubdom Olaf Hering
2014-09-30 16:02   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 15:20 ` [PATCH 28/28] Separate runtime debug output from debug symbols Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 15:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-25 15:57     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26  6:07     ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-25 16:01   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26  8:17     ` Olaf Hering [this message]
2014-09-26  8:54       ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-26  9:06         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26  9:22           ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-26  9:37             ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26  8:56       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 11:40   ` [PATCH 28/28 v2] " Olaf Hering
2014-09-26 11:56     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 14:02       ` Olaf Hering
2014-09-26 14:43         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 19:12           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-10-01 16:41 [PATCH 00/28 v5 for-xen-4.5] tool changes to honor configure --prefix=DIR Olaf Hering
2014-10-01 16:41 ` [PATCH 28/28] Separate runtime debug output from debug symbols Olaf Hering
2014-10-02  7:26   ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-02  8:00     ` Olaf Hering
2014-10-02  8:06       ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-02  9:52         ` Tim Deegan
2014-10-02 10:27           ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-02 16:52             ` Andrew Cooper
2014-10-06  7:31               ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-06  7:40                 ` Olaf Hering
2014-10-02 10:45         ` Olaf Hering
2014-10-02 14:15   ` Ian Campbell

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