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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Fu Wei <fu.wei@linaro.org>, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
Subject: Re: perf & rasd integration plan
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 21:53:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141006195349.GE20739@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141006191227.GD14113@kernel.org>

On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 04:12:27PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Right, and it is being a great exercise, thanks for the patience so far
> ;-)

I know, this is your secret agenda to keep me at bay working on this! :-P

> Looking at those ifdefs we see things that are specific to tools/perf/,
> like perf_evsel having a struct hists embedded... I.e. that is of no
> interest whatsoever (so far) to rasd, and in turn pulls other object
> files.
> 
> So I think that right now we need to look at those ifdefs and go on
> making what is in tools/perf/util/ stop using it somehow, so that what
> then gets moved to tools/lib/api/perf/ (I guess this is where it should
> be, opinions?) have that sorted out.
> 
> I.e. what goes to tools/lib/api/perf/ is what is common to the needs of
> tools/perf/ and rasd (wherever it may roam).
> 
> Perhaps something like I did for sock/inet_sock/inet_connection_sock
> ages ago... I.e. the tools that want a hists will have a 
> 
> struct hists_evsel {
> 	struct perf_evsel evsel;
> 	struct hists	  hists;
> };
> 
> etc.
> 
> Experimenting with that, as it is the only thing ifdefed out in rasd's
> copy of evsel.h...

Right, this all reads like it is going in the right direction but the
more important question IMO is are we doing a libperf or are we still
doing tools/lib/api/perf/ of single object files to which people can
link?

Because if it is the second - and it sounds to me like it is - how do
you propose we link with external projects? IOW, if I want to have rasd
build *without* the kernel tree, is a simple

cp -r tools/lib/api/ <my_project>/path/to/perf/lib/

work?

I mean, I don't know and I'm just asking. Is that the proposed way? Are
we fine with that? Do we want something different, maybe even a lib? Is
it time for a lib even?

Because the whole perf functionality is being cravingly ogled by other
users - I know Matt wants it for cache QoS or whatever it is called and
there are probably a whole lot of projects which would like to process
events programatically in userspace.

So what I'm saying is, we probably should have a nice clean way
to be able to share that code with external projects instead of
external projects duplicating and building a whole library around
perf_event_open() and the likes...

Just a couple of thoughts...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
--

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-30  9:06 perf & rasd integration plan Jean Pihet
2014-09-30 13:24 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-05 17:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-05 18:24     ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-05 18:45       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-05 19:24       ` Chuck Ebbert
2014-10-05 19:28         ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-06  6:53       ` Jean Pihet
2014-10-08  6:59         ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-06  9:07   ` Robert Richter
2014-10-06 13:44     ` Jean Pihet
2014-10-06 14:58     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-06 15:01       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-06 15:08         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-06 15:16           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-06 15:02       ` Jean Pihet
2014-10-06 15:07 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-06 15:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-06 19:12     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-06 19:53       ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2014-10-06 21:22         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-07 11:23           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-07 13:40             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-07 13:49               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-07 13:55                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-07 14:02                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-07 14:13                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-06 21:26 ` [PATCH 1/1] rasd: Use perf_evlist__open() instead of open coded Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-07  8:45   ` Jean Pihet
2014-10-07 13:32     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-07 14:04       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-07 14:17         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-10 20:07         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-10 20:28           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-10 20:41             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-10 20:44               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-13  7:29                 ` Jean Pihet
2014-10-14 13:56                   ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-14 14:02                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-10-14 14:22                       ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-14 15:17                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-10-14 15:20                           ` Jean Pihet
2014-10-14 14:19                     ` David Ahern
2014-10-14 17:09                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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