From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Guenter Roeck Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roeck-us.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=rQ6rH62IVi3t667IdZCBE8tSmhZQL2Q9nNSNDyRgyqQ=; b=MKb7l2CScgqxobbl4Fklsp1diRyRXT32uzoHSsHgRLLYAYRLtafM8UPire0rXGKrJuTqEBlZ+hhUqsMarjpyXtF4K28qHfe2AiwyZON/B8Ak5m7SqsTC4FRKwFKwLV3JVzOGJngq6rf9/QkDK58XvqGXDyfsXUrmim9ZA2jgh3o=; Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Rob Landley Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Rob Herring On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Guenter Roeck Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:31:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Message-Id: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> List-Id: References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Rob Landley Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Rob Herring On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Tue, 07 Oct 2014 18:35:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bh-25.webhostbox.net ([208.91.199.152]:60380 "EHLO bh-25.webhostbox.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by eddie.linux-mips.org with ESMTP id S27010727AbaJGQftjRPO6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:35:49 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roeck-us.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=rQ6rH62IVi3t667IdZCBE8tSmhZQL2Q9nNSNDyRgyqQ=; b=MKb7l2CScgqxobbl4Fklsp1diRyRXT32uzoHSsHgRLLYAYRLtafM8UPire0rXGKrJuTqEBlZ+hhUqsMarjpyXtF4K28qHfe2AiwyZON/B8Ak5m7SqsTC4FRKwFKwLV3JVzOGJngq6rf9/QkDK58XvqGXDyfsXUrmim9ZA2jgh3o=; Received: from mailnull by bh-25.webhostbox.net with sa-checked (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XbXji-004MKU-Sg for linux-mips@linux-mips.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:35:42 +0000 Received: from 108-223-40-66.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net ([108.223.40.66]:37837 helo=localhost) by bh-25.webhostbox.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XbXfj-004IaA-Nb; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:31:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:31:31 -0700 From: Guenter Roeck To: Rob Landley Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Rob Herring , Pawel Moll , Mark Rutland Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Message-ID: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Authenticated_sender: guenter@roeck-us.net X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-CTCH-PVer: 0000001 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.5434165E.01F3,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-SenderID: linux@roeck-us.net X-CTCH-SenderID-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalMessages: 23 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalSpam: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalSuspected: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalConfirmed: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalBulk: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalVirus: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalRecipients: 0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bh-25.webhostbox.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - linux-mips.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - roeck-us.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: bh-25.webhostbox.net: mailgid no entry from get_relayhosts_entry X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 43068 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: linux@roeck-us.net Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: linux-mips X-List-ID: linux-mips List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-mips On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Guenter Roeck Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Rob Herring Return-path: In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> List-ID: List-Id: linux-parisc.vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bh-25.webhostbox.net (bh-25.webhostbox.net [208.91.199.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 847F81A018A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 03:35:13 +1100 (EST) Received: from mailnull by bh-25.webhostbox.net with sa-checked (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XbXjD-004M96-Pp for linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:35:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:31:31 -0700 From: Guenter Roeck To: Rob Landley Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Message-ID: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> Cc: linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, Mark Rutland , devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll , xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: linux@roeck-us.net (Guenter Roeck) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:31:31 -0700 Subject: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> Message-ID: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754684AbaJGQbn (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:31:43 -0400 Received: from bh-25.webhostbox.net ([208.91.199.152]:49868 "EHLO bh-25.webhostbox.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754220AbaJGQbl (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:31:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:31:31 -0700 From: Guenter Roeck To: Rob Landley Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lguest@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-cris-kernel@axis.com, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-c6x-dev@linux-c6x.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Rob Herring , Pawel Moll , Mark Rutland Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/44] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Message-ID: <20141007163131.GE28835@roeck-us.net> References: <1412659726-29957-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <1412659726-29957-6-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net> <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <543412F7.8040909@landley.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Authenticated_sender: guenter@roeck-us.net X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 X-CTCH-PVer: 0000001 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.5434156D.003C,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-SenderID: linux@roeck-us.net X-CTCH-SenderID-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalMessages: 34 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalSpam: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalSuspected: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalConfirmed: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalBulk: 32 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalVirus: 0 X-CTCH-SenderID-TotalRecipients: 0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bh-25.webhostbox.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - roeck-us.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: bh-25.webhostbox.net: mailgid no entry from get_relayhosts_entry X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:21:11AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote: > On 10/07/14 00:28, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > Devicetree bindings are supposed to be operating system independent > > and should thus not describe how a specific functionality is implemented > > in Linux. > > So your argument is that linux/Documentation/devicetree/bindings should > not be specific to Linux. Merely hosted in the Linux kernel source > repository. > > Well that's certainly a point of view. > Not specifically my argument, really, and nothing new either. But, yes, I do think that devicetree bindings descriptions should not include implementation details, especially since those may change over time (as is the case here). Thanks, Guenter