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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@parallels.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: introduce task_rcu_dereference?
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:18:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141023181818.GB2740@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1414051845.19914.144.camel@tkhai>

On 10/23, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
>
> I'm agree generic helper is better. But probe_slab_address() has a sence
> if we know that SDBR is worse in our subject area.

And I still think it is worse.

> Less of code is
> easier to support :)

Sure, but ignoring the comments, SDBR needs the same code in
task_rcu_dereference() ? Except, of course

	-	probe_slab_address(&task->sighand, sighand);
	+	sighand = task->sighand;

or how do you think we can simplify it?


> probe_slab_address() it's not a trivial logic.

But it already has a user. And probably it can have more.

To me the usage of SDBR is not trivial (and confusing) in this case.
Once again, ignoring the CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC problems it does not
help at all.

With or without SDBR rq->curr can be reused and we need to avoid this
race. The fact that with SDBR it can be reused only as another instance
of task_struct is absolutely immaterial imo.

Not to mention that SDBR still adds some overhead while probe_slab()
is free unless CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC, but this option adds a large
slowdown anyway.


But again, I can't really work today, perhaps I missed something.
Perhaps you can show a better code which relies on SDBR?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-23 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-22  7:17 [PATCH v4] sched/numa: fix unsafe get_task_struct() in task_numa_assign() Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-22 21:30 ` introduce task_rcu_dereference? Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-22 22:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-23 18:15     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-23  8:10   ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-23 18:18     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-10-24  7:51       ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-27 19:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] introduce task_rcu_dereference() Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-27 19:54   ` [PATCH 1/3] probe_kernel_address() can use __probe_kernel_read() Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-27 19:54   ` [PATCH 2/3] introduce probe_slab_address() Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-27 19:21     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-10-28  5:44     ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-28  5:48       ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-28 15:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-28 17:56         ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-28 18:00           ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-28 19:55           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28 20:12             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-29  5:10               ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-10-27 19:54   ` [PATCH 3/3] introduce task_rcu_dereference() Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28  6:22     ` Kirill Tkhai
2016-05-18 17:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-18 18:23       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-05-18 19:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-18 19:57           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-05-26 11:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 10:49             ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Use task_rcu_dereference() tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-03 10:48       ` [tip:sched/core] sched/api: Introduce task_rcu_dereference() and try_get_task_struct() tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-28 11:02 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: Fix unsafe get_task_struct() in task_numa_assign() tip-bot for Kirill Tkhai
2014-11-08  3:48 ` [PATCH v4] sched/numa: fix " Sasha Levin
2014-11-09 14:07   ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-11-10 10:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 15:48       ` Sasha Levin
2014-11-10 16:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-16  9:50       ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched/numa: Avoid selecting oneself as swap target tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 16:03   ` [PATCH v4] sched/numa: fix unsafe get_task_struct() in task_numa_assign() Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 16:09     ` Sasha Levin
2014-11-10 16:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 16:10     ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-11-10 16:36       ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-11-10 16:44         ` Sasha Levin
2014-11-10 20:01           ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-11-12  9:49             ` Kirill Tkhai
2014-11-15  2:38     ` Sasha Levin
2014-11-18 17:30       ` Sasha Levin

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