From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Florian Westphal Subject: Re: [PATCH -next 0/2] net: allow setting ecn via routing table Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 00:16:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20141030231637.GF10069@breakpoint.cc> References: <1414276729-17871-1-git-send-email-fw@strlen.de> <20141028.165737.2009356944765978630.davem@davemloft.net> <20141029122307.GA29253@breakpoint.cc> <20141030.155958.156984068627586090.davem@davemloft.net> <20141030205204.GE10069@breakpoint.cc> <1414703260.15352.9.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> <20141030221501.GA9416@breakpoint.cc> <1414710342.15352.14.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Florian Westphal , David Miller , netdev@vger.kernel.org To: Eric Dumazet Return-path: Received: from Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc ([80.244.247.6]:39876 "EHLO Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161432AbaJ3XQk (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:16:40 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1414710342.15352.14.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Eric Dumazet wrote: > On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 23:15 +0100, Florian Westphal wrote: > > > Do you think a fallback to non-ecn for retransmitted syns would help? > > Unfortunately some firewalls are buggy and accept a single SYN per flow. [..] > Note that ECN problems are not only contained in SYN packets being > eventually dropped. You might have a success to establish a flow, and > later get CE marks for all packets and cwnd converges to 1. I see. So that makes ecn=1 default a pure fantasy. Thanks for explaining this.