From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, entry: Switch stacks on a paranoid entry from userspace
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 22:36:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141111213628.GP31490@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2522bcacf5db9a25a819a8756502edb1d2ca10f.1415739239.git.luto@amacapital.net>
A very big hmmm...
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:56:52PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> This causes all non-NMI kernel entries from userspace to run on the
> normal kernel stack.
So one of the reasons #MC has its own stack is because we need a
known-good stack in such situations. What if the normal kernel stack is
corrupted too due to a #MC?
> This means that machine check recovery can happen in non-atomic
> context. It also obviates the need for the paranoid_userspace path.
>
> Borislav has referred to this idea as the tail wagging the dog. I
> think that's okay -- the dog was pretty ugly.
And I still am not sure about this: so the #MC handler makes implicit
assumptions that while it is running nothing is going to interrupt it
and it can access MCA MSRs. If you switch to process context, another
#MC will preempt it and overwrite MCA MSRs. Which is a no-no.
So unless I'm missing something - and I probably am - I don't think
we can run #MC handler in process context. #MC is the highest prio
abort-type exception along with processor reset for a reason.
Thanks.
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Boris.
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-11 20:56 [RFC PATCH] x86, entry: Switch stacks on a paranoid entry from userspace Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 21:36 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2014-11-11 22:00 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-11 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 22:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 22:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-11 22:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 23:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-11 23:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 0:22 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-12 0:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 1:06 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-12 2:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 2:06 ` Tony Luck
2014-11-12 10:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-12 15:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 16:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-12 17:17 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-12 17:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-13 18:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-14 21:56 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 22:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 18:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-17 19:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 20:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-17 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 21:55 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-17 22:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 23:16 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18 0:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-18 0:22 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18 0:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-18 18:30 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18 23:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-18 23:26 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18 16:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-12 22:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-12 23:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 23:41 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13 0:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 0:31 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13 1:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 3:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 18:43 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 22:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 22:33 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13 22:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 23:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 0:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 1:20 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 1:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 17:49 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 19:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 19:37 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 18:27 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 10:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-14 17:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 17:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-14 17:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 18:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-13 10:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-13 21:23 ` Borislav Petkov
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