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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Sterling Alexander <stalexan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] exit/pid_ns: comments + simple fix
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:57:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141125165726.GA28913@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ioi4fex5.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 11/24, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Eric, Pavel, could you review 1/2 ? (documentation only). It is based on the
> > code inspection, I didn't bother to verify that my understanding matches the
> > reality ;)
> >
> > On 11/20, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Probably this is not the last series... in particular it seems that we
> >> have some problems with sys_setns() in this area, but I need to recheck.
> >
> > So far only the documentation fix. I'll write another email (hopefully with the
> > patch), afaics at least setns() doesn't play well with PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER.
> >
> > Contrary to what I thought zap_pid_ns_processes() looks fine, but it seems only
> > by accident. Unless I am totally confused, wait for "nr_hashed == init_pids"
> > could be removed after 0a01f2cc390e10633a "pidns: Make the pidns proc mount/
> > umount logic obvious". However, now that setns() + fork() can inject a task
> > into a child namespace, we need this code again for another reason.
> >
> > I _think_ we can actually remove it and simplify free_pid() as well, but lets
> > discuss this later and fix the wrong/confusing documentation first.
>
> At the very least there is the issue of rusage being wrong if we allow
> the init process to be reaped before all of it's children are reaped.

Do you mean cstime/cutime/c* accounting?

Firstly it is not clear what makes child_reaper special in _this_ sense, but
this doesn't matter at all.

The auotoreaping/EXIT_DEAD children are not accounted, only wait_task_zombie()
accumulates these counters. (just in case, accounting in __exit_signal() is
another thing).

> There is also a huge level of weird non-intuitive behavior that would
> require some substantial benefits to justify an optimization of letting
> a child exist longer than init.

Sure. That is why I said "lets discuss this later". This patch doesn't try
to change the rules. It only tries to document the current code.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 20:14 [PATCH 0/4] proc: deuglify task_state() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-07 20:14 ` [PATCH 1/4] proc: task_state: read cred->group_info outside of task_lock() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-07 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/4] proc: task_state: deuglify the max_fds calculation Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-07 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] proc: task_state: move the main seq_printf() outside of rcu_read_lock() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-13 18:04   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-07 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] proc: task_state: ptrace_parent() doesn't need pid_alive() check Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-10 21:59 ` [PATCH 0/5] exit: reparent zombie fix + cleanups/optimizations Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-10 22:00   ` [PATCH 1/5] sched_show_task: fix unsafe usage of ->real_parent Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-11 10:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 22:00   ` [PATCH 2/5] exit: reparent: use ->ptrace_entry rather than ->sibling for EXIT_DEAD tasks Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-10 22:00   ` [PATCH 3/5] exit: reparent: cleanup the changing of ->parent Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-10 22:00   ` [PATCH 4/5] exit: reparent: cleanup the usage of reparent_leader() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-10 22:00   ` [PATCH 5/5] exit: ptrace: shift "reap dead" code from exit_ptrace() to forget_original_parent() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-14  1:37 ` [PATCH 0/5] exit: more cleanups/optimizations Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-14  1:38   ` [PATCH 1/5] exit: wait: cleanup the ptrace_reparented() checks Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-14  1:38   ` [PATCH 2/5] exit: wait: don't use zombie->real_parent Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-14  1:38   ` [PATCH 3/5] exit: wait: drop tasklist_lock before psig->c* accounting Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-14  1:38   ` [PATCH 4/5] exit: release_task: fix the comment about group leader accounting Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-14  1:38   ` [PATCH 5/5] exit: proc: don't try to flush /proc/tgid/task/tgid Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:29 ` [PATCH 0/6] exit: find_new_reaper() fixes/cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:30   ` [PATCH 1/6] exit: reparent: fix the dead-parent PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER reparenting Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:30   ` [PATCH 2/6] exit: reparent: fix the cross-namespace " Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:30   ` [PATCH 3/6] exit: reparent: s/while_each_thread/for_each_thread/ in find_new_reaper() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:30   ` [PATCH 4/6] exit: reparent: document the ->has_child_subreaper checks Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:30   ` [PATCH 5/6] exit: reparent: introduce find_child_reaper() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-18 21:30   ` [PATCH 6/6] exit: reparent: introduce find_alive_thread() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-20 18:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] exit: avoid O(n ** 2) thread-list scan on group-exit if possible Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-20 18:34   ` [PATCH -mm 1/3] exit: reparent: avoid find_new_reaper() if no children Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-20 22:37     ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-21 20:01       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-20 18:34   ` [PATCH -mm 2/3] exit: reparent: call forget_original_parent() under tasklist_lock Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-20 18:34   ` [PATCH -mm 3/3] exit: exit_notify: re-use "dead" list to autoreap current Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 20:06 ` [PATCH 0/2] exit/pid_ns: comments + simple fix Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 20:06   ` [PATCH 1/2] exit: reparent: fix/update the comments in zap_pid_ns_processes() Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 20:14     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 22:07     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-25 16:57       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-25 17:17         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 20:06   ` [PATCH 2/2] exit: pidns: alloc_pid() leaks pid_namespace if child_reaper is exiting Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 21:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-25 17:07       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-25 17:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-25 18:15           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-25 18:43             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-25 18:59               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 21:27   ` [PATCH 0/2] exit/pid_ns: comments + simple fix Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-24 21:38     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-24 21:48   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-25 16:57     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-11-26 23:54   ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-26 23:54     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] exit: pidns: alloc_pid() leaks pid_namespace if child_reaper is exiting Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-27 15:44       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-26 23:54     ` [PATCH v2 2/2] exit: pidns: fix/update the comments in zap_pid_ns_processes() Oleg Nesterov
2014-12-01 22:39       ` Andrew Morton
2014-12-01 23:24         ` Oleg Nesterov

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