From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752169AbbAKXAq (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:00:46 -0500 Received: from mta-out1.inet.fi ([62.71.2.227]:42267 "EHLO kirsi1.inet.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750852AbbAKXAp (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:00:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 00:58:02 +0200 From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" To: Darren Hart , Andy Lutomirski , Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Cc: Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] platform-drivers-x86 for 3.19 Message-ID: <20150111225802.GA12944@node.dhcp.inet.fi> References: <20141218175126.GA78864@vmdeb7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20141218175126.GA78864@vmdeb7> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 09:51:27AM -0800, Darren Hart wrote: > thinkpad-acpi using software mute simplifies the driver and the user experience > significantly. Except when it doesn't. I'm probably in minority, but I don't use fancy userspace to mess with my mixer and the mute button worked just fine for me before the change. Wasted half an hour to find out what happened is not a pure win from user experience point of view. Is it really necessary to have software_mute_requested == true by default? Can fancy userspace ask for desired behaviour instead and change kernel to not send hotkeys change notification until software_mute is enabled? -- Kirill A. Shutemov