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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@linuxace.com,
	lennart@poettering.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH iptables] iptables: use IPC semaphore instead of abstract unix sockets
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:21:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150119132143.GA4545@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150119130833.GA8818@acer.localdomain>

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 01:08:33PM +0000, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On 19.01, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 02:00:24PM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:51:19PM +0000, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > > > On 19.01, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > > > "This patch introduces a semaphore that is identified by the path to
> > > > > the iptables binary, it also relies on SEM_UNDO so the kernel performs
> > > > > the up() operation at process exit to avoid races with signals. This
> > > > > also avoids file locks that require a writable filesystem."
> > > > 
> > > > Is it wise to use the path? Not that its very common, but multiple
> > > > binaries would still race. Any reason you chose not to use something
> > > > globally unique?
> > > 
> > > What kind of race are you worrying about?
> > 
> > Oh, I get it. Several different iptables binaries located in different
> > paths. This patch cannot address that situation, we can select a
> > hardcoded key but we may conflict with other applications.
> 
> Sure, but that risk also exists with using the path.
> 
> > Regarding the use of posix semaphores, there is no SEM_UNDO feature,
> > so we can have problem if this receives a kill signal or it
> > abort/crash somewhere in the code.
> > 
> > I think the best solution is to use to flock() as others do but then
> > we need a writable filesystem() which is what Phil was trying to skip.
> > 
> > Question is if we should really care. I mean, this locking solution
> > was introduced as a workaround given we couldn't solve this in the
> > kernel.
> 
> I think your patch is fine, just wanted to point out that we might
> want to choose a hardcoded name. I think the risk of clashes with
> other applications is absolutely minimal.

Makes sense to me. This is how ftok() calculates the key based on the
path:

  key = ((st.st_ino & 0xffff) | ((st.st_dev & 0xff) << 16)
         | ((proj_id & 0xff) << 24));

We can a select a magic number for that key, any candidates?

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-19 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-18 21:13 [PATCH iptables] iptables: use IPC semaphore instead of abstract unix sockets Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-18 21:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2015-01-19 12:24   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-19 12:51     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-19 13:00       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-19 12:59         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-19 13:06         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-01-19 13:08           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-01-19 13:21             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2015-01-19 13:19           ` Patrick Schaaf
2015-01-19 13:34             ` Patrick Schaaf
2015-01-19 15:54           ` Jan Engelhardt
2015-01-23  3:04             ` Lennart Poettering
2015-01-19 14:21     ` Lennart Poettering
2015-01-19 14:17 ` Lennart Poettering

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