From: Peter Cordes <peter@cordes.ca>
To: Benno Schulenberg <bensberg@justemail.net>
Cc: Util-Linux <util-linux@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: fix grammar and punctuation of 2.26 release notes
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:58:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150119205805.GX29504@cordes.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1421517403.2403892.215153577.6B12EB93@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 06:56:43PM +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015, at 04:15, Peter Cordes wrote:
> > > + The new version no longer supports some obscure MBR-specific command-line
> > > options and legacy CHS addressing.
> >
> > s/and/or/ in the last line. "no longer supports x or y" is the proper
> > usage here.
>
> Hmm. I would tend to use "nor" here. It may not be grammatical or
> proper usage, but I think it is the most clear. ("No longer foo or bar"
> works fine, but "no longer foo-foo-baz-foo-baz or bar" is unclear to me --
> the negation has been mostly forgotten when the eye arrives at "or bar".
> The "nor" is then a nice reminder.)
You're right, nor might actually be more proper. And agree on using
it to avoid ambiguity.
>
> > > + -o for mount(8); it's now possible to specify swap options on the command
> > > + line by the same string as in fstab
> >
> > I think "with the same string", rather than "by the same string".
>
> Well, "is specified by" gives me many more google hits than "is specified with".
"Is specified by <name of standard / person / organization>" is common usage.
"Is specified with <how you specify it>" is a strange usage that I'm
not sure is correct. What I am pretty sure about is that "by" isn't
correct usage for the 2nd case. If we were writing a book, I'd
probably think of a way to reword the whole sentence.
Perhaps "using the same string as in fstab"? I think that sounds
less clunky than either "by" or "with".
> This comparison may not be valid, but I think "by" is okay here. And even if
> most native speakers would prefer "with" here, I think it's fine to let some of
> the foreignness of Karel's tongue sound through in his text.
I agree that the meaning is still clear, so it doesn't really need a
change.
>
> > > +The debug infrastructure in the libraries libmount, libsmartcolsm, libfdisk and
> > > +libblkid allows to specify debug options by human-readable strings too. For
> > > example "LIBMOUNT_DEBUG=all mount /mnt".
> >
> > "libblkid allows specifying debug options with human-readable strings, too. For"
> >
> > would read a bit better.
>
> To a native speaker probably yes.
Definitely, not just probably. The meaning is totally clear, but I
don't think any native speaker would have used "by" instead of "with"
or "as".
> But I'm trying to make the minimum
> amount of changes, fixing just the things where my comprehension is
> hindered.
Fair enough. I didn't think it would be a problem to make more
changes around lines you're already changing anyway, but if there's a
downside, it can stay.
> There's no need to make this text into "English English";
> "understandable and acceptable foreigner English" seems good enough.
Yup, "acceptable foreigner English" is a good description of a lot of
free software docs. I agree it's not worth the time to try to get
global open-source projects up to the level a book editor would be
happy with. It just caught my interest, so I took the time, and
probably found some changes just for the sake of changing something.
> Thanks for the review.
> Shall I add a Reviewed-by tag to V2? Or an Acked-by?
Either would be cool. I'm not too familiar with the usual practices
for tagging git commits, so whichever you think is most appropriate
would be appreciated.
--
#define X(x,y) x##y
Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X(peter@cor , des.ca)
"The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BC
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-19 20:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-15 19:09 [PATCH] docs: fix grammar and punctuation of 2.26 release notes Benno Schulenberg
2015-01-16 3:15 ` Peter Cordes
2015-01-17 17:56 ` Benno Schulenberg
2015-01-19 20:58 ` Peter Cordes [this message]
2015-01-18 20:46 ` [PATCH V2] docs: fix grammar and punctuation and typos in " Benno Schulenberg
2015-01-19 21:08 ` [PATCH V3] " Benno Schulenberg
2015-01-19 21:27 ` Peter Cordes
2015-01-26 10:18 ` Karel Zak
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