diff for duplicates of <20150220080448.GL32600@odux.rfo.atmel.com> diff --git a/a/1.txt b/N1/1.txt index 878521d..6cf5df9 100644 --- a/a/1.txt +++ b/N1/1.txt @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@ On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote: > >>>> the FW/bootloader could be common even if the DTB couldn't. > >>>> > >>>> To some extent there must be a DTB that will work across all variants -> >>>> (albeit with limited utility) or the quirk approach wouldn't work? +> >>>> (albeit with limited utility) or the quirk approach wouldn't work… > >>>> > >>> -> >>> That?s not correct; the only part of the DTB that needs to be common +> >>> That’s not correct; the only part of the DTB that needs to be common > >>> is the model property that would allow the quirk detection logic to fire. > >>> > >>> So, there is a base DTB that will work on all variants, but that only means @@ -60,8 +60,8 @@ On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote: > >>>>>> appended DTB if it's not possible to update the board configuration. > >>>>>> > >>>>> -> >>>>> You?re missing the point. I can?t use the same DTB for each revision of the -> >>>>> board. Each board is similar but it?s not identical. +> >>>>> You’re missing the point. I can’t use the same DTB for each revision of the +> >>>>> board. Each board is similar but it’s not identical. > >>>> > >>>> I think you've misunderstood my point. If you program the board with the > >>>> relevant DTB, or use appended DTB, then you will pass the correct DTB to @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote: > >>> > >>> In theory it might work, in practice this does not. Ludovic mentioned that they > >>> have 27 different DTBs in use at the moment. At a relatively common 60k per DTB -> >>> that?s 27x60k = 1.6MB of DTBs, that need to be installed. +> >>> that’s 27x60k = 1.6MB of DTBs, that need to be installed. > >> > >> < snip > > >> @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote: > > > > Trust no-one. > > -> > This is one of those things that the kernel community doesn?t understand which makes people +> > This is one of those things that the kernel community doesn’t understand which makes people > > who push product quite mad. > > > > Engineering a product is not only about meeting customer spec, in order to turn a profit @@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote: > > > > Yes, you can always manually install files in the bootloader. For 1 board no problem. > > For 10 doable. For 100 I guess you can hire an extra guy. For 1 million? Guess what, -> > instead of turning a profit you?re losing money if you only have a few cents of profit +> > instead of turning a profit you’re losing money if you only have a few cents of profit > > per unit. > > I'm not installing physical components manually. Why would I be installing software @@ -121,16 +121,16 @@ don't take care about dtb stuff. > And you produce a few million units before testing that the first one off the line works? > > > -> > And frankly I don?t care what other OSes do. If you were to take a look at the sorry DT support -> > they have you?d be amazed. +> > And frankly I don’t care what other OSes do. If you were to take a look at the sorry DT support +> > they have you’d be amazed. > > -> > I would be very surprised if there?s another OS out there that can boot with a late Linux DTB. +> > I would be very surprised if there’s another OS out there that can boot with a late Linux DTB. > > > >> -Frank > > > > Regards > > -> > ? Pantelis +> > — Pantelis > > > > PS. For a real use case please take a look at the answer Guenter gave on this thread a little > > while back. diff --git a/a/content_digest b/N1/content_digest index 9d0363d..202b94a 100644 --- a/a/content_digest +++ b/N1/content_digest @@ -7,10 +7,22 @@ "ref\054E613E7.2020405@gmail.com\0" "ref\0670D0881-DBF0-45E8-A502-A6DB2B77A750@konsulko.com\0" "ref\054E61DD2.3060002@gmail.com\0" - "From\0ludovic.desroches@atmel.com (Ludovic Desroches)\0" - "Subject\0[PATCH 2/4] of: DT quirks infrastructure\0" + "From\0Ludovic Desroches <ludovic.desroches@atmel.com>\0" + "Subject\0Re: [PATCH 2/4] of: DT quirks infrastructure\0" "Date\0Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:04:48 +0100\0" - "To\0linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org\0" + "To\0Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>\0" + "Cc\0Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com>" + Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> + devicetree@vger.kernel.org <devicetree@vger.kernel.org> + Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> + Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> + Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com> + linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> + Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> + Ludovic Desroches <ludovic.desroches@atmel.com> + linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org> + Matt Porter <matt.porter@linaro.org> + " Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>\0" "\00:1\0" "b\0" "On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0800, Frank Rowand wrote:\n" @@ -43,10 +55,10 @@ "> >>>> the FW/bootloader could be common even if the DTB couldn't.\n" "> >>>>\n" "> >>>> To some extent there must be a DTB that will work across all variants\n" - "> >>>> (albeit with limited utility) or the quirk approach wouldn't work?\n" + "> >>>> (albeit with limited utility) or the quirk approach wouldn't work\342\200\246\n" "> >>>>\n" "> >>>\n" - "> >>> That?s not correct; the only part of the DTB that needs to be common\n" + "> >>> That\342\200\231s not correct; the only part of the DTB that needs to be common\n" "> >>> is the model property that would allow the quirk detection logic to fire.\n" "> >>>\n" "> >>> So, there is a base DTB that will work on all variants, but that only means\n" @@ -75,8 +87,8 @@ "> >>>>>> appended DTB if it's not possible to update the board configuration.\n" "> >>>>>>\n" "> >>>>>\n" - "> >>>>> You?re missing the point. I can?t use the same DTB for each revision of the\n" - "> >>>>> board. Each board is similar but it?s not identical.\n" + "> >>>>> You\342\200\231re missing the point. I can\342\200\231t use the same DTB for each revision of the\n" + "> >>>>> board. Each board is similar but it\342\200\231s not identical.\n" "> >>>>\n" "> >>>> I think you've misunderstood my point. If you program the board with the\n" "> >>>> relevant DTB, or use appended DTB, then you will pass the correct DTB to\n" @@ -87,7 +99,7 @@ "> >>>\n" "> >>> In theory it might work, in practice this does not. Ludovic mentioned that they\n" "> >>> have 27 different DTBs in use at the moment. At a relatively common 60k per DTB\n" - "> >>> that?s 27x60k = 1.6MB of DTBs, that need to be installed.\n" + "> >>> that\342\200\231s 27x60k = 1.6MB of DTBs, that need to be installed.\n" "> >>\n" "> >> < snip >\n" "> >>\n" @@ -102,7 +114,7 @@ "> > \n" "> > Trust no-one.\n" "> > \n" - "> > This is one of those things that the kernel community doesn?t understand which makes people\n" + "> > This is one of those things that the kernel community doesn\342\200\231t understand which makes people\n" "> > who push product quite mad.\n" "> > \n" "> > Engineering a product is not only about meeting customer spec, in order to turn a profit\n" @@ -110,7 +122,7 @@ "> > \n" "> > Yes, you can always manually install files in the bootloader. For 1 board no problem.\n" "> > For 10 doable. For 100 I guess you can hire an extra guy. For 1 million? Guess what,\n" - "> > instead of turning a profit you?re losing money if you only have a few cents of profit\n" + "> > instead of turning a profit you\342\200\231re losing money if you only have a few cents of profit\n" "> > per unit.\n" "> \n" "> I'm not installing physical components manually. Why would I be installing software\n" @@ -136,16 +148,16 @@ "> And you produce a few million units before testing that the first one off the line works?\n" "> \n" "> > \n" - "> > And frankly I don?t care what other OSes do. If you were to take a look at the sorry DT support\n" - "> > they have you?d be amazed.\n" + "> > And frankly I don\342\200\231t care what other OSes do. If you were to take a look at the sorry DT support\n" + "> > they have you\342\200\231d be amazed.\n" "> > \n" - "> > I would be very surprised if there?s another OS out there that can boot with a late Linux DTB.\n" + "> > I would be very surprised if there\342\200\231s another OS out there that can boot with a late Linux DTB.\n" "> > \n" "> >> -Frank\n" "> > \n" "> > Regards\n" "> > \n" - "> > ? Pantelis\n" + "> > \342\200\224 Pantelis\n" "> > \n" "> > PS. For a real use case please take a look at the answer Guenter gave on this thread a little\n" "> > while back.\n" @@ -156,4 +168,4 @@ "> -Frank\n" > -477ca2d6c0bb6514cdd9150e7b54c99a13e4a5acf595f066d73ec356b75b933d +ba47d91001d1fc63f9825bda17622a8db9f09ec40fda096adfec147203525c93
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