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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, fpu: Use eagerfpu by default on all CPUs
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:31:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150221093150.GA27841@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0ba174ea882ed36cf7011e872baf427c23b7e09.1424458621.git.luto@amacapital.net>


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:

> We have eager and lazy fpu modes, introduced in:
> 
> 304bceda6a18 x86, fpu: use non-lazy fpu restore for processors supporting xsave
> 
> The result is rather messy.  There are two code paths in 
> almost all of the FPU code, and only one of them (the 
> eager case) is tested frequently, since most kernel 
> developers have new enough hardware that we use eagerfpu.
> 
> It seems that, on any remotely recent hardware, eagerfpu 
> is a win: glibc uses SSE2, so laziness is probably 
> overoptimistic, and, in any case, manipulating TS is far 
> slower that saving and restoring the full state.
> 
> To try to shake out any latent issues on old hardware, 
> this changes the default to eager on all CPUs.  If no 
> performance or functionality problems show up, a 
> subsequent patch could remove lazy mode entirely.

So it would be nice to test this on at least one reasonably 
old (but not uncomfortably old - say 5 years old) system, 
to get a feel for what kind of performance impact it has 
there.

But yes, this would enable a nice simplification in the end 
so I'm all for it as long as it doesn't cause unacceptable 
problems - and the FPU code needs simplification badly, 
because the current latency of bug discovery is too high 
IMO.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-21  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-20 18:58 [RFC PATCH] x86, fpu: Use eagerfpu by default on all CPUs Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-20 19:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21  9:31 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-02-21 16:38   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 17:29     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 18:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 19:15         ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-21 19:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-21 21:36             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22  8:18               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22  8:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 10:48                 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22 12:50                 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22 12:57                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-22 13:21                     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-22  0:34       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-22  2:18         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-22 11:06           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23  1:45             ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23  5:22               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 12:51                 ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 15:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 15:51                     ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 18:06                       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 21:17           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-23 21:21             ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 22:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-02-24  0:56                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-24  0:59                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-23 22:27               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-23 23:44                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24  2:14                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-02-24  2:31                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 14:43                       ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-21 18:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-23 14:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-23 15:11   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-23 15:53     ` Rik van Riel
2015-02-23 18:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-24 19:15 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-25  0:07   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-25 10:37     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-25 10:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 10:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 17:12 ` Some results (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, fpu: Use eagerfpu by default on all CPUs) Borislav Petkov

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