From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
oleg@redhat.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
andi@firstfloor.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, linux@horizon.com,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] seqlock: Better document raw_write_seqcount_latch()
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 18:32:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150413163201.GC6040@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150413141213.492831596@infradead.org>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> +/**
> * raw_write_seqcount_latch - redirect readers to even/odd copy
> * @s: pointer to seqcount_t
> + *
> + * The latch technique is a multiversion concurrency control method that allows
> + * queries during non atomic modifications. If you can guarantee queries never
> + * interrupt the modification -- e.g. the concurrency is strictly between CPUs
> + * -- you most likely do not need this.
Speling nit:
triton:~/tip> git grep -i 'non-atomic' | wc -l
160
triton:~/tip> git grep -i 'non atomic' | wc -l
21
so I guess 'non-atomic' wins?
> + *
> + * Where the traditional RCU/lockless data structures rely on atomic
> + * modifications to ensure queries observe either the old or the new state the
> + * latch allows the same for non atomic updates. The trade-off is doubling the
> + * cost of storage; we have to maintain two copies of the entire data
> + * structure.
s/non atomic/non-atomic
> + * The query will have a form like:
> + *
> + * struct entry *latch_query(struct latch_struct *latch, ...)
> + * {
> + * struct entry *entry;
> + * unsigned seq, idx;
> + *
> + * do {
> + * seq = latch->seq;
> + * smp_rmb();
> + *
> + * idx = seq & 0x01;
> + * entry = data_query(latch->data[idx], ...);
> + *
> + * smp_rmb();
> + * } while (seq != latch->seq);
Btw., I realize this is just a sample, but couldn't this be written
more optimally as:
do {
seq = READ_ONCE(latch->seq);
smp_read_barrier_depends();
idx = seq & 0x01;
entry = data_query(latch->data[idx], ...);
smp_rmb();
} while (seq != latch->seq);
Note that there's just a single smp_rmb() barrier: the READ_ONCE() is
there to make sure GCC doesn't calculate 'idx' from two separate
reads, but otherwise there's a direct data dependency on latch->seq so
no smp_rmb() is needed, only a data dependency barrier when doing the
first lookup AFAICS?
(This doesn't matter on x86 where smp_rmb() is barrier().)
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-13 16:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-13 14:11 [PATCH v5 00/10] latched RB-trees and __module_address() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] module: Sanitize RCU usage and locking Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] module: Annotate module version magic Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] module, jump_label: Fix module locking Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] rbtree: Make lockless searches non-fatal Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 15:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 19:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] seqlock: Better document raw_write_seqcount_latch() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:32 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-04-13 17:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-04-13 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-13 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-13 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-14 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 13:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-14 14:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 15:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-13 19:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 19:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] rbtree: Implement generic latch_tree Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 19:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] module: Optimize __module_address() using a latched RB-tree Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 12:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] module: Make the mod_tree stuff conditional on PERF_EVENTS || TRACING Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] module: Use __module_address() for module_address_lookup() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] module: Rework module_addr_{min,max} Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 2:55 ` Rusty Russell
2015-04-14 6:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 13:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 17:02 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] latched RB-trees and __module_address() Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 2:57 ` Rusty Russell
2015-04-14 6:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 4:41 ` Rusty Russell
2015-04-15 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 2:07 ` Rusty Russell
2015-05-28 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 23:49 ` Rusty Russell
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20150413163201.GC6040@gmail.com \
--to=mingo@kernel.org \
--cc=David.Woodhouse@intel.com \
--cc=aarcange@redhat.com \
--cc=andi@firstfloor.org \
--cc=laijs@cn.fujitsu.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@horizon.com \
--cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
--cc=oleg@redhat.com \
--cc=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=riel@redhat.com \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=rusty@rustcorp.com.au \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=walken@google.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.